JavonCollins

i live in the NW, Washington

Im having a fabulous time with the girl im currently dating, im an RM, shes 19 goin on 20. Weve been dating for over 3 months now. I just want some fun, cheap things we can do on like friday nights if there are any suggestions!? Thanx :]

Ya, ive had that thought. I have served a mission. I'm 23 now and have been home for 18 months. Shes 19 1/2 so its still alil time before she would even go. Seems alil odd for her to think seriously about it this far away (some hold the same opinion about marriage at 19, i get that, wouldn't happen until she is 20). But i cant agree more with maturing and the experience of a mission. Thanx for the thought.

Heres my 2 cents. First of all a link to our current stance as "The Church" is concerned Polygamy: Latter-day Saints and the Practice of Plural Marriage - LDS Newsroom The issue comes with earthly order/law v.s Celestial order. We do not know how things are going to be after all is said in done. There are teasers and bits and pieces that we have received that gives us ideas of what type of people go where. We know that God understands all things and Polygamy is a principle of the Gospel, also that of Celestial order. If it wasn't a principle it wouldn't have ever been implemented in the scriptures nor the early church. Many principles have been instituted to help us in preparation for "higher laws", and we must understand this. Like tithing towards law of consecration. Related, but one being more preparatory towards the other. Polygamy will likely be instituted after this life as we know. But it is like any other principle we don't fully understand, requiring our faith that Heavenly Father will make known in His time the manner in which polygamy may work in the Celestial order of things. Go to the temple, study, pray, all the primary answers...ect. Pray for help that you can understand whats NEEDED and simply push to move on past emotions and logic. I often find that when we struggle with a certain principle in our lives or to understand something, its cause we are not doing something we should be, or could be doing better. Anyways, my 2 cents. ;]

agreed @ dec2057

of course there are certain jobs that have been justified that attribute to society and living, they can be done perfectly well in the spirit of the law. its been in ensigns and spoken of by the brethren.

Because the Sabbath is a holy day, it should be reserved for worthy and holy activities. Abstaining from work and recreation is not enough. In fact, those who merely lounge about doing nothing on the Sabbath fail to keep the day holy. In a revelation given to Joseph Smith in 1831, the Lord commanded: "That thou mayest more fully keep thyself unspotted from the world, thou shalt go to the house of prayer and offer up thy sacraments upon my holy day; for verily this is a day appointed unto you to rest from your labors, and to pay thy devotions unto the Most High" (D&C 59:9–10). In harmony with this revelation, Church members attend sacrament meeting each week. Other Sabbath-day activities may include praying, meditating, studying the scriptures and the teachings of latter-day prophets, writing letters to family members and friends, reading wholesome material, visiting the sick and distressed, and attending other Church meetings. (under th additional information tab under sabbath day) I simply got this from the official site, lds.org. I think we all know that we aren't to be commanded in all things and this is one that can easily have loopholes. Its indeed left up to us to decide what we should and shouldn't do. What's worthy and wholesome is definitely opinion, but at the same time we know brethren have come out and spoken concerning some things that have been mentioned in this forum. We all have weaknesses and i wouldn't consider it a sin of commission but perhaps of omission as we could be doing "better" things as we have learned about good, better, and best. ;] Just like a mission has strict rules to keep us focused, the Sabbath is given for the same reason to allow us to focus on the savior in our lives and during the week. If we slip up or do other things on that day, we are not going to be damned (i believe) we just may perhaps forfeit some small blessings or feelings of peace we may have otherwise gained. Again, its all individual and family based :]

Agreed @ MarginOfError, and thats the stance i will take, though im not completely comfortable that my heartstrings could be pulled for so long then get dropped. Under the circumstance that mission is a STRONGER desire then sure, she should go. Though i would find that rare from what i have seen and heard in life. Indeed it is a case-by-case situation. Because of the counsel of marriage over mission is as such i think thats why it is seen less.

Thank you very much everyone. You have been very helpful indeed. Yes my question did revolve around the chronology of the patriarchal blessing and i am also thankful that some other points were hit revolving around the issue. My question was somewhat loaded and had more around it. I am trying to stay out of her choice to decide which path she will follow, as it is hers alone and i only want to encourage what is right. She knows what i want ;] and yes its up to her to figure out whats gonna work for her. Thank you for the quote from President Hinckley @ Loudmouth_Mormon, was very insightful and clear as always from our prophets. It touches his feelings on parents roles with sister missionaries in their decision to serve and i like that. So everyone knows im pretty satisfied with the feedback and if anyone wishes to say more or has other quotes, fantastic! Thanx

Thanks Pam. :] Any other advice from others would be great as well.

Well ya, thats basically how i feel about the subject. But her parents love to hang on to the idea that because its listed before its a good sign that its not towards later in her life. I feel its up to her and the spirit in deciding at what time. Apparently it says something along the lines of her having "a desire" (which right now she doesn't). But i dunno. I know sisters aren't supposed to feel pressured to go. I obviously would like her to go if its whats right, then again i know they are counseled to pursue marriage specially if an opportunity arises (such as myself ;])

Yes, i think the simple question is that.

This is my first post and i have joined due to a question. This may pull an obvious answer but please correct me if I'm wrong or if there is a way for it to be understood. My question concerns how Patriarchal Blessings tend to be bulleted with events in our lives, mission, education, marriage, career, family. It seems to be a general outline (maybe not all the time, but from what i know). Now let me get a few things out of the way. I do understand that many things may not be mentioned for us, doesn't mean we can't receive them. I also understand that some are shorter than others and that is not significant. My question is concerning the order. Now, my question is directed as such, for a sister who may have a mission mentioned but it obviously isn't concerning when or the timing. What seems interesting is that its mentioned before marriage, education, family, ect. Is this significant to you? Is it simply dictated by the spirit as to when, disregarding its chronology? I know that missions are primary a Priesthood responsibility and sisters should only prioritize it accordingly. How does this line up with that? Would God ask or commit a sister in a Patriarchal Blessing? Thanx. P.S. A little background to my question is im dating a sister who has talked with me about her conflict ;] (telling me minimal things about her p-blessing) it becomes a bit more conflicted cause her parents have an opinion which supports a mission. I obviously have a biased cause i would eventually want to marry her lol. But honest opinions would be great. Specially any quotes that could support the question.