DarklyDreamingDexter

If this is how windy you are when you type, I can only imagine the horror of being in a room having to hear you speak. Does the bishop have to flash you the red warning light every time you give a talk in church?

Look at it this way buddy. She stopped sleeping with other men when she met you. That makes you the most studly stud in her world and she cant help but only have passions for you. Sure she made mistakes, but the atonement took care of that. As of now, she's only got eyes for you. Besides, how many women have you looked at and had dirty thoughts enter your mind? If you've repented and avoid that happening dont you think it would be rediculilous for her to obsess? If you disagree and think that she should devulge the details of her irrelevant past then perhaps you'd feel comfortable sharing your darkest fantasies with her that you've ever had about another woman? I mean, its only fair right?

I wont tell you what you should do. But what I would do is first off ignore completely most of what Threepercent has to say. If putting up filters is what you need to start your healing then go for it. Nothing says you cant remove the filters later when you're able to. And the last time i checked putting up barriers for ones self wasnt prision, but more like armor. Keep putting up your armor lostsheep, defend yourself from your enemy as long as you need until you are strong enough to need only a large stick and maybe a knife instead of a whole suite of armor. haha You're doing fine lostsheep, go back to your grazing.

I didnt say it read garden of eden litterally. The topic is on sin in the premortal realm or not. Nothing will ever take us back to the state we were in in the premortal world...not even the atonement, its not designed to do so. We've grown since then, changed and matured. I apologize if i was unclear or confusing in my rescue attempt.

I would love to hear your arguments on the difference. Let me begin with my argument that it is the same. What you call murder is the choice of one party to act in a manner which takes the life away from what you call a victim who had no say in the matter. What you call abortion is the choice of one party to act in a manner which takes the life away from what you call an unborn fetus who had no say in the matter. Now that I've read my own words I do see a huge difference; Victim is spelled dfferent than Fetus.

And the award for most melodramatic goes to...

Desirexnoel, Im sorry but I cant help but chuckle at your logic on certain matters. You've said several times that abortion should be legal because people are going to do it anyways and die as a result. By this logic we need to make murder legal because people are going to do it anyways and people are going to die. But then again, making murder leagal would make my life a little easier. Yes, lets make killing legal. And lets make abortion legal as well. : killing wholesale!

Reading Elgama's post gave me a thought. Pherhaps you could view this time in your life you have to wait as your own pioneer trek? If you know anything about mormon history you know about saints having to endure long hardships across vast country as they worked towards their goals and promised lands. You wont have to cross space, but rather time. Your pioneer trek is across possibly 3 years of time towards your goal. But who knows, perhaps your parents will cave and let you join sooner. But even if they dont let you and you must wait until you're 18... you'd better not lose sight of your goal because there will be a lot of people there in your life who've been waiting for you.

I think that the fact he's addressed his porn addiction to his own mother and has taken steps involving her to solve his adiction shows that he has more determondation, not to mention humility, than every other guy here. My advice, dont make porn such a forbidden fruit. This usually just makes it more tempting. Come to be indifferent to it. Its there yes, but you dont care. You dont need it. And after a while, you wont even want it. And of course dont put yourself in a position to be tempted. That alone is the key step to any temptation. Thats why I have no mirrors in my house---Pride and Vanity.

Oh boy, Looks like Dexter's gotta step in and save the day on this one. The D&C quote you're useing is refering to the state of man in mortality. The innocent state returned to was that of the garden of eden, not the spirit world or pre-mortal state. Please, lets refrain from making scripture mean whatever we need it to mean at the moment. And on if we sinned we'd be with satan; The scriptures say if we chose satan's plan we would be with satan. Jesus has a plan too and it allows for sin ... that we can be forgiven of. Obviously there was sin in the premortal realm or else there would have been no casting out of satan and his followers, but thats the key phrase HIS FOLLOWERS.

*evil giggle* I think I could give you some advice. You're a 15 year old girl and this is the age most dads dread. In a word, BOYS. Here is what you do. Go hang out with some Mormon girls and take pics with them. Then go hang with some chicks from Mega-lo-church and take pics with them. When you show your dad the pics and he sees that Mega-Jesus-Church girls like to dress sexy and cake on the make up and that you couldnt get a single pic without at least one boy in the back ground, he will take a second look at the mormon girls and see their modesty and lack of drool dripped on their shoulders from lustful boys and I assure you it will plant a seed in his mind....hmm, perhaps those mormons arent so bad after all.

The Devil cant be forgiven because the Devil doesnt want forgiveness. Just like me, he cant be forgiven until he stops his rebellion. He will never stop and so is eternally disqualified from salvation. I on the other hand may someday have my heart broken and at last repent. Its that simple. Stop looking for loop holes and ultimate answers. Satan is eternally damned because he is eternally rebellious.