Aristotle

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Middle Eastern countries are governed by a male deity, and by male rulers...without a constitutional amendment establishing "separation of church and state"; the abuse of women/children is accepted by law. Our founders established America as a Christian nation, without partiality to one particular Christian denomination over another. We are governed by Christian principles; The Ten Commandments, which continues to be displayed on [certain] courtroom walls, protects the innocent: "Thou Shalt Not Kill" [neither women, children, or the unborn.

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The religious law is set forth by a male figurehead. The female should not be killed by the male for any reason. That pretty much clears up any misconceptions. ;-)

"...[the] Lord stated in the 59th section of the Doctrine and Covenants, verse 6, “Thou shalt not steal; neither commit adultery, nor kill, nor do anything like unto it.” [D&C 59:6]"

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Are you saying that Middle Eastern women are not under the jurisdiction of their husbands/brothers/fathers? Are you also saying that if a Middle Eastern woman opposes the male (causing embarassment for the male), that the male does not have the right to behead the female? The world I live in is America! As an American woman, I dress accordingly...which is modestly...not covered from head to toe, but neither in a revealing manner. And I would want my American daughter to follow suit.

The war in heaven was fought over free agency, so this must be a very important issue! Those who choose to do evil, follow Satan; those who choose to do good, follow God. A person who runs a red light is guilty of having caused an accident, not using their free agency to deliberately cause an accident which may or may not injure/kill someone. There is opposition in all things; when we are sick, we appreciate being well, etc. This has nothing to do with sin, but the fact that we are given trials and tests in this life which enable us to grow spiritually, to gain compassion and empathy, and understanding. No, Prendi...that is a member teaching! We are to use our own free agency (to trust our own spirit, or "gut", or instinct); reasoning things out in our mind, through prayer and study...we arrive at our own determination on our own behalf, as to what is right or wrong for us. Let no one take your power of freedom of thought/choice away from you, as it is God-given...you have earned the right by virtue of the fact that you fought the war in heaven for that agency. What we do with our free agency is the key! Whether or not one chooses to do good or evil, the choice is ours...and we will be accountable in either case. I would agree with that.

Sorry, but that sounds like a member teaching! God gave me a brain to use, not to turn into brain rot from non-use. ;-) People that don't question things which go against their spirit become robotic, having lost their ability to think, along with their free agency.

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Women are wiser now, and men are made accountable for their exercise of unrighteous dominion. Pres. Hinckley continually warns the brethren, but some of the brethren may not be listening, or just may not care. Spousal and child abuse still occurs, otherwise there would be no need for the prophet to continue to warn the brethren. If these brethren treat their wives in this manner, they are not righteous enough to practice polygamy if it were reinstated.

"Members of the Church guilty of being parties to the sin of abortion must be subjected to the disciplinary action of the councils of the Church as circumstances warrant. In dealing with this serious matter, it would be well to keep in mind the word of the Lord stated in the 59th section of the Doctrine and Covenants, verse 6, “Thou shalt not steal; neither commit adultery, nor kill, nor do anything like unto it.” [D&C 59:6]"

A troublemaker to one, might be a friend to another. ;-)

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Your rules are very sound and comparable to the other networks I have frequented. I have been referred to as the "resident troll", not realizing what exactly that meant. (I never really thought of myself as a supernatural being. LOL) In my opinion, simply because one has been labeled a troublemaker, should not warrant them an automatic ban.

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Little girls like to dress like Barbie. I wouldn't want my daughter to think she had to cover herself from head to toe, as is required of Islamic women who are subjected to and under the jurisdiction of the male. Do you suppose that the American Barbie would be promoted in the Middle East? And if so, wouldn't the little girls want to dress like the fashionable American women? Whoa, Winnie! Don't put words in my mouth...I never said Islamic people are evil, so no need to take offense! And I'm very comfortable in my skin...in my clothes...in my country. Which is why I see no need to promote their lifestyle in the form of buying an Islamic Barbie doll for my daughter.

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Wooooooohooooooooooo! ^5 pushka! Glad you opened our topic. :-) My history of Bob Dylan stems back to my teenage years, when my parents bought me a guitar. I learned how to play from a Dylan songbook. Just recently, we took a train trip to the Grand Canyon. On board was a cowboy entertainer who sang "Old MacDonald"...Dylan style. What a hoot! My husband's favorite Dylan song to sing in karaoke is "Just Like a Woman". Mine is "Subterranean Homesick Blues". ;-) Johnny’s in the basement Mixing up the medicine I’m on the pavement Thinking about the government The man in the trench coat Badge out, laid off Says he’s got a bad cough Wants to get it paid off Look out kid It’s somethin’ you did God knows when But you’re doin’ it again You better duck down the alley way Lookin’ for a new friend The man in the coon-skin cap In the big pen Wants eleven dollar bills You only got ten Maggie comes fleet foot Face full of black soot Talkin’ that the heat put Plants in the bed but The phone’s tapped anyway Maggie says that many say They must bust in early may Orders from the d. a. Look out kid Don’t matter what you did Walk on your tip toes Don’t try no doz Better stay away from those That carry around a fire hose Keep a clean nose Watch the plain clothes You don’t need a weather man To know which way the wind blows Get sick, get well Hang around a ink well Ring bell, hard to tell If anything is goin’ to sell Try hard, get barred Get back, write braille Get jailed, jump bail Join the army, if you fail Look out kid You’re gonna get hit But losers, cheaters Six-time users Hang around the theaters Girl by the whirlpool Lookin’ for a new fool Don’t follow leaders Watch the parkin’ meters Ah get born, keep warm Short pants, romance, learn to dance Get dressed, get blessed Try to be a success Please her, please him, buy gifts Don’t steal, don’t lift Twenty years of schoolin’ And they put you on the day shift Look out kid They keep it all hid Better jump down a manhole Light yourself a candle Don’t wear sandals Try to avoid the scandals Don’t wanna be a bum You better chew gum The pump don’t work ’cause the vandals took the handles Yeeeeeeeeeehaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaw!

For they are yet ear-kissing arguments. - William Shakespeare, Greatest English dramatist & poet (1564 - 1616)

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Harold B. Lee, N. Eldon Tanner, and Marion G. Romney, “Policies and Procedures,” New Era, Apr. 1973, 29 In view of a recent decision of the United States Supreme Court, we feel it necessary to restate the position of the Church on abortion in order that there be no misunderstanding of our attitude. The Church opposes abortion and counsels its members not to submit to or perform an abortion except in the rare cases where, in the opinion of competent medical counsel, the life or good health of the mother is seriously endangered or where the pregnancy was caused by rape and produces serious emotional trauma in the mother. Even then it should be done only after counseling with the local presiding priesthood authority and after receiving divine confirmation through prayer. Abortion must be considered one of the most revolting and sinful practices in this day, when we are witnessing the frightening evidence of permissiveness leading to sexual immorality. Members of the Church guilty of being parties to the sin of abortion must be subjected to the disciplinary action of the councils of the Church as circumstances warrant. In dealing with this serious matter, it would be well to keep in mind the word of the Lord stated in the 59th section of the Doctrine and Covenants, verse 6, “Thou shalt not steal; neither commit adultery, nor kill, nor do anything like unto it.” [D&C 59:6] As to the amenability of the sin of abortion to the laws of repentance and forgiveness, we quote the following statement made by President David O. McKay and his counselors, Stephen L Richards and J. Reuben Clark, Jr., which continues to represent the attitude and position of the Church: “As the matter stands today, no definite statement has been made by the Lord one way or another regarding the crime of abortion. So far as is known, he has not listed it alongside the crime of the unpardonable sin and shedding of innocent human blood. That he has not done so would suggest that it is not in that class of crime and therefore that it will be amenable to the laws of repentance and forgiveness.” This quoted statement, however, should not, in any sense, be construed to minimize the seriousness of this revolting sin. The First Presidency Harold B. Lee N. Eldon Tanner Marion G. Romney