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Guilty as charged LOL Now don't be making the cardinal sin of forums again and quoting what I say in context! That ain't allowed! LOL

Sleeping's for sissies! LOL I got a good five hours and I'm good to go for the morning :)

According to LDS doctrine, is Heavenly Father the First God? Jesus Christ, as well as all of us, are children of His but is there a God above Heavenly Father? I'm sure our finite brains can't truly comprehend this but I'm trying to get it straight as I possibly can...Since Jesus Christ is God and attained it, I'm assuming that Heavenly Father became a God in the same such manner? If so, did Heavenly Father have a Father as well? It's almost like a spirit genealogy LOL Well hopefully y'all get what I'm talking about. Any answers on this would be greatly appreciated.

You did and quite well actually. :)

I'll definitely check it out...Must head off to bed though...It's 2:20 am here and got to be up at 8 am...Talk to you later and thanks for the headsup on the scripture readings! God bless.

Yeah I'm starting to read it online...Can't wait for my hard copy to get here in the mail so I can really get into it...From what I've read so far, it really does seem like the Word of God to me but I've only read the beginning first few chapters of 1Nephi though...Definitely loving it so far...Also the Book of Moses in the Pearl of Great Price has really intrigued me...It really makes Genesis seem more full and explains a lot of things.

I admit that I would LOVE to have all the answers but, even if I was blessed with them, I probably wouldn't be able to accept them. Going from a Baptist church that believes in Faith Alone and the Bible alone to learning about the LDS faith that has additional books as well as prophets and revelations is a huge leap in of itself. I'm learning what I can piece by piece and, when questions arise, I ask and keep on talking about it until it makes sense to me. It always seemed strange to me that Heavenly Father was talking to so many people all through the Old Testament and there were prophets galore...Then, once Jesus came, we were just supposed to believe that God wouldn't reveal anything new because Jesus Christ came down to earth and died for our sins? Knowing that God still reveals things to us, as we can handle them, is a great thought. I definitely know I'm not ready for any new revelations. I'm having enough trouble as it is dealing with the knowledge that God has bestowed upon us 200 years ago! LOL

I'm not quite sure...It could have been learning about these new books and questioning God and what exactly His Word truly is. Probably just questioning a lot of things in general. It was like putting together a puzzle for a bit and wondering how this piece could fit into the puzzle. Just had to take a step back and let Heavenly Father answer things. Everything still doesn't make perfect sense but the puzzle is definitely becoming a lot clearer to see.

To be honest, at first when I was learning about the LDS faith, it seemed to be pulling me away from God a bit...Not really sure the reason why...But, as I continued to pray about it and reading not only the Bible as I continue to do, but also some of the Book of Moses as well as the Book of Mormon, my faith seems to be growing...I feel a much stronger relationship with Heavenly Father now and Jesus as well...Also thinking of Jesus Christ not only as my Savior and Redeemer but also as a loving older brother who would do anything for you, really helps personalize Jesus in my life as well. What an awesome family we have in Heavenly Father and Jesus Christ! :)

None of us have all the answers...I think that's one of the big reasons for prayer...Even though we don't have the answers, Heavenly Father truly does...You know, before I started learning about the LDS faith, I thought it was "weird" to call God; Heavenly Father...But now that's how I start all my prayers and thinking about how He truly is our literal Father in Heaven, it makes me feel even closer to Him when I pray.

Yep and that's exactly what I'm doing I think it's fair to see both sides of the equation and if somebody has an objection about the LDS church, I come to y'all or ask the Mormon missionary I've been speaking with online, etc. If it's the fullness of the Gospel, it will be proven as Truth. If I haven't said it enough, thanks to you and everybody else on this site as well as Heavenly Father who has guided me here as well through my old friend from high school. It's definitely been a fun journey so far. :)

Yeah there a bunch of websites out there that just attack without really doing their homework or quote Bible verses that are completely out of context just to prove "I'm right and you're wrong." That's why I think forums with tons of different beliefs get so popular. It's a lot less about coming together to discuss and more about proving they're right unfortunately. That's why I really like it here. If I have a question, people really help me to understand and I'm learning so much! It's great! It's amazing what prayer, reading the Scriptures (not "just" the Bible), and going to the source for answers instead of reading what somebody that has an axe to grind will do :)

I guess that could be applied to the Gospel...but what about Malachi 3:6 when it states "For I am the LORD, I change not; therefore ye sons of Jacob are not consumed." I know in Malachi 3:5, it is talking about God's judgment but is that all it is talking about? If God is not changing in one area, is it ONLY talking about that one area or would He be unchanged of all aspects as well? On a sidenote, as I'm learning more and more, it is getting very strange. I see so many people saying bad things about the LDS church and how it isn't "Christian" and such(not in here of course)...But this voice inside me coming straight from my heart is saying, " I don't care what other people are saying! I know this is true no matter what people are saying! What about that?? LOL" Just thought I'd share that and see if others have had that experience before.

If I understand the LDS doctrine correctly, Jesus wasn't always God. He attained his "Godhood" status by living such a righteous life...If I'm wrong anywhere, please correct me. If this is the case, how does the LDS church reconcile that belief with Hebrews 13:8 which states "Jesus Christ the same yesterday, and to day, and for ever."

Well I guess the question must be asked did King James have the proper authority to translate the Bible then? If not, how could you trust the KJV?

Jesus Christ and Satan being literally spirit brothers makes a lot more sense to me than the Trinity or, in Fatima's case, transubstantiation. I understand both concepts (I've even looked into Catholicism in the past) but trying to explain those, especially transubstantiation, is a lot more confusing than anything covered in this discussion. It all makes perfect sense to me and I am, by no means, a theologian.

As I learn more about the church, it seems that the only Bible that the LDS church relies on is the KJV Bible and believes that all others are corrupted...If I'm wrong on any of this, please tell me. Is there any proof of this? Also if you look in the KJV, there are certain verses that are inaccurate such as ones that use the word "unicorn" but, in later translations, changed the word to a more accurate meaning of oxen or something of that variant. Some verses on the usage of "unicorn" are Psalm 92:10, Numbers 23:22, 24:8, Job 39:9-10, etc. Any help on the church's view of KJV-onlyism would be greatly appreciated. Thanks!

Still reading the articles but that first one just makes soo much sense! Thanks for posting it!! I'll be sure to check em both out...I love this place! :)

Is Satan really Jesus's spirit brother? If so, is it talked about in the BOM, D&C, or Pearl of Great Price?

I've read some of the BOM online as well as reading through the Book of Moses in the Pearl of Great Price...I've definitely been praying about this all and also been talking to an online missionary over at mormon.org.

I think this is the biggest thing for me to grasp and it is difficult being a "mainstream Christian" for lack of a better term and thinking that Joseph Smith was truly visited by Jesus Christ and God here in America...I always felt like there wasn't a complete connection with Christianity as it all happened in the Middle East and here I am wayyy over here in America and then I learn about this but still it's hard to believe. I'm keeping an open mind about this all and praying about it though. :)

frere jacques to you too! :)

Talk linky? Is that the official term? LOL Thanks! :)

Jeremy Camp or Third Day...I could literally listen to any song they sing...They are just awesome...Josh Groban is great too! It's strange but it seems he sings better in other languages than English LOL

I also started getting into "The Forgotten." Like most, I tuned in just to see Christian Slater on regular tv. I really like that show and it isn't that bad other than the obligatory dead body of course.