The_Phoenix

I don't know, I could not wait to grow up and move out, now I wish I could go back to being a child. But at my age that will happen soon enough.

Good point.

Excellent point!

That would be difficult to explain then. However medical history is filled with people performing great feats via adrenalin. Being pursued could be such a case.

That would be an odd question for a believer in the Bible which is filled with God endowing men with great strength.

True, I have just never been any good at it. Of course that is a good thing. :)

I like it!

Sorry I forgot to put a smiley face after that comment. Fixed!

Many in the anti-Mormon community have criticized the fact that the plates upon which the Book of Mormon were taken (translated), and that they were “taken”, is very convenient” for the Mormons, because they are not available for comparison, review, inspection, etc. But in reality it is not ‘very inconvenient” at all, but “very necessary”. I have given much thought to what arguments would be made if we did have the “plates”. Before listing any it is only (FAIR©) to note that we do not have (no one has) the “Stone Tablets” upon which were engraved by the “Hand of God” the Ten Commandments. Because the OT was passed down via “Oral Tradition” we do not have (no one has) any original manuscripts. Beyond the OT, there are missing manuscripts of the NT as well. Also the “famous” or “infamous” missing books… Note: Not all missing to all versions, but missing, or a more descriptive term may be “excluded”. Many scriptural books are alleged too have been written centuries after the advent of Christ. But returning to the main theme, what if we had the “plates of gold or brass”? This is my list; maybe some of you could add? In addition I would also like a list from those representing other organizations or interests to list what they would need to be satisfied. Including for example IRR©, President Rob Bowman or others. My list… No one can read this language it is made up! They have them but will not everyone see them…this already happens with many religious artifacts that are in the possession of others; made by those not allowed to see them. They have not been carbon dated. They have been carbon dated and scientists cannot agree. Mormons don’t have Scholars or Scientists, BYU only teaches Pseudoscience. This one may have merit? I don’t care what anyone says; I have not seen them! OK the comments made there on the plates are correct according to the inscription, but there is no evidence beyond written that Nephites and Laminites ever existed. The plates are plagiarized from the Bible. “A Bible, a Bible, we have got a Bible and there can be no other Bible”. There theology does not match orthodoxy and therefore it is false. It does no agree with our “Creeds”! They store them behind protective glass, how do we know what it is? BTW, the Church is a con has the money to produce something and do this! No God would require obedience for salvation. I will add others as additional posts… My list for why they are not available…”all of the above”. Be serious and have fun.

I have a son I have not seen in a year, so Christmas will be great because I will get to speak to him. Do any of you have sons or daughters on missions. I remember when my daughter served, but she was only gone for one Christmas.

I doubt it.

I would not disagree. BTW, I believe the Biblical account, I just have no proof.

I think mankind has known and lost much, what to us is normal would have seemed supernatural then. https://www.google.com/search?q=worlds+oldest+computer&hl=en&prmd=imvns&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&sa=X&ei=9GbiTsOUJIfZgAfKkcWWBg&ved=0CEMQsAQ&biw=1280&bih=854 https://www.google.com/search?q=baghdad+battery&hl=en&client=firefox-a&hs=Yrm&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&channel=s&prmd=imvns&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&sa=X&ei=uGbiTvSoBMLTgAfjn8z7BQ&ved=0CEAQsAQ&biw=1280&bih=854

We have 1,000's of year of catch up work to do; give us time we will get there.

I don't know that that is a fair assumption, this is how children learn. By example; By example; By example.

Unless you believe God learns from men and not the other way around. We have such technologies today, I am sure God was aware of how to do it then. I am speaking about the actual physical dimensions of a boat that we are given at the task at hand.

I am not so sure; 7 of every clean beast and two of every unclean beast, on a ship or barge. Noah become the new Adam and the Father of all Nations.

I believe that is supposed to be the gift of the Holy Ghost...but fire "refines".

No, just an interesting one.

If God could not have "offspring" then God would not be all powerful; this by definition puts limits upon his abilities. Christ was always quick to point out "there is none good but God" and "I do that which I have seen the Father do".

As only a parent could.

The outcome of the story would suggest otherwise.

I teach Sunday School as a result of work and heath fined myself only attending SS. When my wife is working I just sit in the High Counsel room (where my class in held) and listen to Sacrament. The older I get the less interested I am at attending any meeting s with my wife. In Temple recommend interviews (I've done many) this is a question that is asked.

Ok let's wade into the shallow water concerning Noah's Ark". That view of Bible vs Science.

Thanks, through your link I found this,