Hi Dr T; I hope that Monica will allow me to give this a shot. There was a time that God was like man is now. He progressed through learning untill he had all knowledge. When he gained all knowledge, he became spiritualy complete or perfect (the word perfect being translated from the Hebrew word taleos, meaning to be completed). Part of His spiritual learning was to learn and except, truths that have always been. This is not the end of his progression because he is now creating more spirits who will some time in the future, inhabit a world much like ours. At this time, the only learning that our Father in Heaven is doing, is getting to know the new spirits that he is creating. He progresses by bringing to pass the eternal live of man. There is no way to surpass our Father in Heaven, because any glory we add to our self's, is added to the Father. This is the best, short version of what I read in Doctrines of Salvation. Thanks - Allmosthumble Hi allmosthumble :) Thanks for sharing the mormon point of view. perhaps we should look at the inspired word of God (the bible) and see what that says **Firstly God the father is not a man. **Secondly God has not progressed in any means or sorts in regards to learning etc God is Omniscient and has always been , for he does not change. Numbers 23:19 God is not a man, that he should lie, nor a son of man, that he should change his mind. Does he speak and then not act? Does he promise and not fulfill? John 4:24 God is spirit, and his worshipers must worship in spirit and in truth." 1 Timothy 6:15-16 which God will bring about in his own time—God, the blessed and only Ruler, the King of kings and Lord of lords, who alone is immortal and who lives in unapproachable light, whom no one has seen or can see. To him be honor and might forever. Amen Malachi 3:6 I the LORD do not change. So you, O descendants of Jacob, are not destroyed. Psalms 102:25-27 In the beginning you laid the foundations of the earth, and the heavens are the work of your hands. They will perish, but you remain; they will all wear out like a garment. Like clothing you will change them and they will be discarded. But you remain the same, and your years will never end. Psalm 139:1-4 O LORD, you have searched me and you know me. You know when I sit and when I rise; you perceive my thoughts from afar. You discern my going out and my lying down; you are familiar with all my ways. Before a word is on my tongue you know it completely, O LORD. Psalm 147:5 Great is our Lord and mighty in power; his understanding has no limit. Isaiah 46:10 I make known the end from the beginning, from ancient times, what is still to come. I say: My purpose will stand, and I will do all that I please. Amen to God being perfect Monica. :) and thanks for great scriptures per·fect (pûrfkt) Perfect precisely accurate or exact; being complete of its kind and without defect or blemish; Lacking nothing essential to the whole; complete of its nature or kind Excellent and delightful in all respects Dan