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Here is a question, why wouldnt we talk about if Jesus was married? Is this pulling up some dark secrets that shakes what we believe? We should talk about it sure. We shoulld wiegh the evidence, hold it up to the scriptures, history, archeology and see it it lines up. My first thought is if He was married, I think we would know it. Is there any mention of it anywhere? My second thought is that it all depends on if you think the bible is without errors because if it is without errors than we can know that what is in it is sure and what it not clear in it is not important. If the bible is not complete than pretty much anything goes and we can't really be sure about what it true about Jesus' life on earth and we can accept any idea about Him that we want or sounds good to us. You choose. My third thought is that most people think that He had children after the supposed ressurrection which means that He really didn;t die on the cross and didn't raise from the dead which means He is still dead today and we won't raise from the dead either. We would have no hope and our claim that Jesus is our Savour would be empty. Does that shake what you believe?

Hi Dr T; I hope that Monica will allow me to give this a shot. There was a time that God was like man is now. He progressed through learning untill he had all knowledge. When he gained all knowledge, he became spiritualy complete or perfect (the word perfect being translated from the Hebrew word taleos, meaning to be completed). Part of His spiritual learning was to learn and except, truths that have always been. This is not the end of his progression because he is now creating more spirits who will some time in the future, inhabit a world much like ours. At this time, the only learning that our Father in Heaven is doing, is getting to know the new spirits that he is creating. He progresses by bringing to pass the eternal live of man. There is no way to surpass our Father in Heaven, because any glory we add to our self's, is added to the Father. This is the best, short version of what I read in Doctrines of Salvation. Thanks - Allmosthumble Hi allmosthumble :) Thanks for sharing the mormon point of view. perhaps we should look at the inspired word of God (the bible) and see what that says **Firstly God the father is not a man. **Secondly God has not progressed in any means or sorts in regards to learning etc God is Omniscient and has always been , for he does not change. Numbers 23:19 God is not a man, that he should lie, nor a son of man, that he should change his mind. Does he speak and then not act? Does he promise and not fulfill? John 4:24 God is spirit, and his worshipers must worship in spirit and in truth." 1 Timothy 6:15-16 which God will bring about in his own time—God, the blessed and only Ruler, the King of kings and Lord of lords, who alone is immortal and who lives in unapproachable light, whom no one has seen or can see. To him be honor and might forever. Amen Malachi 3:6 I the LORD do not change. So you, O descendants of Jacob, are not destroyed. Psalms 102:25-27 In the beginning you laid the foundations of the earth, and the heavens are the work of your hands. They will perish, but you remain; they will all wear out like a garment. Like clothing you will change them and they will be discarded. But you remain the same, and your years will never end. Psalm 139:1-4 O LORD, you have searched me and you know me. You know when I sit and when I rise; you perceive my thoughts from afar. You discern my going out and my lying down; you are familiar with all my ways. Before a word is on my tongue you know it completely, O LORD. Psalm 147:5 Great is our Lord and mighty in power; his understanding has no limit. Isaiah 46:10 I make known the end from the beginning, from ancient times, what is still to come. I say: My purpose will stand, and I will do all that I please. Amen to God being perfect Monica. :) and thanks for great scriptures per·fect (pûrfkt) Perfect precisely accurate or exact; being complete of its kind and without defect or blemish; Lacking nothing essential to the whole; complete of its nature or kind Excellent and delightful in all respects Dan Hey Dan; Your new here so I will go easy on you. Just kidding. God is not a man, we agree. God is perfect, we agree. Does God's kingdom increase? Will this world be His last? Would you stop God from progressing (if you could) by saying that this is it, no more worlds, no more new children? I am thankful for the Bible and every inspired word in it. I beleive it to be the word of God and should be studied, often. And I hope that you can come back often - may I also sugest a trip to LDS.org and maybe a look at the thirteen articles of faith as kind of a starting point for some one who is going to show us darn Mormons the errors in our ways? Don't worry, there will be plenty to argue about when you get back. I think that, that was the natural man in me, coming out. I'm sorry for being rude. And please don't take it wrong when I say that I can not see were any of the scriptures that you have presented above have any thing to do with the point I was making. Your unworthy freind, Allmosthumble Hey Almosthumble, Isn't it true that Lds believes that the bible is man made, with flaws and can only be partly trusted as inspired? As apposed to the BOM that whas supposed to be written by God Himself and should be placed above the bible or any other book in authority? Do you believe this? Here is something to think about. The bible is the divine and true Word of God. What it says is true. If that is so, then it so happens to prove the other two absolute truths. How can I say for sure that God exists and is exactly as the bible describes Him? Because the bible- which is divine trustworthy and true- says so. How can I say that Jesus is the only way to get to God? Because the bible says so :) . We have to believe with all our hearts that the bible is true, as a whole (in it's original texts). Otherwise we will start picking and choosing what WE think is true or false and that would make us the judge and there is only one Judge. Our loving, living, faithfull GOD.