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I was actually baptised and raised Christian. But found still much of that questionable. But I chose athiest eventually.

Does it cost money to do missionary work with LDS church?

I'm not sure if this is somewhere in the LDS bible? I'm going to have to disagree with GOD is perfect...If there is/was a god. I posted in the wrong section before as a reply, but should clarify if this is a belief in LDS or other religions? God making Lilith for Adam as a mistake would be a tiny mistake compared to the rape, murder, violence, abuse, torture, destruction of the world today. All relationships would be perfect and there would be no need for divorce court nowadays. It might seem more believable to me that there was a Lilith and she did not make the cut...If God was perfect he would not have had to punish Lilith when she did not to return to Adam from the Red Sea when the angels threatened her death. If god was perfect there would be no imperfection in this world. It is possible to question things and not assume that God is perfect and still keep your faith, but to claim Lilith is irrelevant due to the fact that God is perfect is not a plausible or logical explanation as to who or what Liliths role in the bible is. (Or any example, does not need to be the Lilith example!) I just find it odd that God can be perfect, and not be willing to explore other avenues as to imperfections.

I wrote 45 as ideal age, but really I never want to get married lol. But at least then you can go enjoy your life being single and test the guys out

I'm not forcing this on someone, but when there is injustice it is up to everyone to solve it. If you object to the marriage aspect of solution solving than offer another way or proposition for the civil rights to be granted. Otherwise, you are forcing religion on government, which operates independently of religion. We have a separation of church and state. If it is just a technical glitch to you that gay people don't get these same rights, and just oh well, then maybe to promote equality we should let the insurance and pension companies save some money and not offer these extending benefits on to the surviving heterosexual spouse. Because if a gay civil union can't have it neither should a straight couple. That sounds a bit absurd to me. (But hey the employers pension fund would sure love that, they'll do anything to save a buck!) It need to be fixed whether the title of marriage is included or not. I did not want to put Athiest as my religion for specific beliefs that I'm just against any religion. For me it is more about evolution vs creationism, I just get upset over all the stuff in the world and do not see religion as anything that aids the situation for the people that are victims. It may give some inside hope and a guide to live their life, but it does not get them out of the situation. If someones field is destroyed in Africa and they'll run out of food, their solution is not to ask god what to do, but to go take action themselves. This is a whole other issue lol. And yes I would grant the same rights to Muslim immigrants (I'm not sure what you refer to by muslim immigrants and which rights you're saying they should not be allowed?) I would also, myself personally, consider some form of plural marriage. (This comes only after seeing the show sister wives, and how they are being persecuted for their religious beliefs.) But as you said, it is not the civil rights you are arguing against but the title itself. Our differences I don't think are that great on the issue as personally I could care less about the title but just the equality of benefits for surviving spouse, and hospital visitation..

So I joined thinking this was the polygamist group, but realized that is FLDS and not LDS! Lol. I met a few people earlier, and most people seemed to be pretty cool considering some earlier issues. I had an essay due tonight, but got sidetracked on the site lol... I'll stick around and investigate some more stuff on here! And we can maybe have some conversations and debates about things.

Sorry going to have to disagree with the GOD is not perfect...If there is/was a god. God making Lilith for Adam as a mistake would be a tiny mistake compared to the rape, murder, violence, abuse, torture, destruction of the world today. All relationships would be perfect and there would be no need for divorce court nowadays. It might seem more believable to me that there was a Lilith and she did not make the cut...If God was perfect he would not have had to punish Lilith for her refusal to return to Adam from the Red Sea when the angels threatened her death. If god was perfect there would be no imperfection in this world. It is possible to question things and not assume that God is perfect and still keep your faith, but to claim Lilith is irrelevant due to the fact that God is perfect is not a plausible or logical explanation as to who or what Liliths role in the bible is. (Or any example, does not need to be the Lilith example!)

Hey there, thanks prisonchaplain...I did hear about this yesterday about Washington State. I'm happy about the situation, but more so because big insurance companies still aren't equating civil unions on par with marriage rights. Marriage has nothing to do with marriage for many of these gay couples, maybe this is something that can make things a bit easier to grasp in the long run as no one is trying to destroy any sanctity of marriage. I'm not sure it's gay marriage as something destroying society, but rather feel religion in general is the cause of much of today's problems. Would Palestine/Israel be at war? Would any individuals care who gets married, or would people just go on with their own lives and mind their own business? People can say it is in intrusion to their lives, but it is no ones concern..There is social inequality being carried out, and if an equal marriage title is the only dispute here, but not the civil rights, then people just need to pretend it didn't happen and keep living the straight and moral life yourselves under the proper guidelines as presented in whatever holy book in question. I myself don't care about the marriage title, but the injustice is the larger thing here. However it is carried out is fine as long as civil rights are addressed. If only civil rights were being granted fully the same as marriages, without a marriage title, i dont think there would be this push for gay marriage. I think because insurance companies etc. wont recognize civil unions there is a need to call it marriage to appease the larger institutions that want to discriminate against non fully legal marriages in the full sense of the word.