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Oh ok, I'm sorry let me explain. The method of praying about the book of mormon does not prove the book to be true, because all prayer makes us feel good and be inclined to what we are praying about, rendering it biased. You could be praying to Zeus and you'd feel just as good. We climbed the mountains, no Zeus practice fell out. I was trying to say find other methods, because prayer like a good hug just increases oxytocin levels. That's all. Simplicity is beautiful too, no need to complicate everything :)

"First while the LDS Church claims to be the only True Church... We do not claim to have an exclusive lock on all truth. Other religions all have various levels of truth and God is no respecter of persons so anyone seeking him in prayer is going to be answered. Therefore it is entirely possible that the 'oxytocin effect' is a side effect rather then cause." Exactly so the Book of Mormon can't be proven by prayer. Thank you, that's exactly what I was trying to say. You can throw out the rest if you wish. Thx for the help! :)

Take for example someone giving you a glass that looks like water. There are however quite a few different liquids out there that look like water. If someone came along and said to you before you drink it, this is not water. He could have a good point. How you'd go about determining that are just simple tests, we've evolved them over time. There are many ways one could determine if indeed it is water that is contained in the glass. One could taste to see if it tastes like water, if it freezes like water, if it evaporates like water, when you shake the glass does it behave like water, determine the amount hydrogen per oxygen present / molecule ect... However if when testing it tastes odd, doesn't freeze, evaporates rather quickly, the hydrogen count is off ect... you start looking at that glass of liquid as something other than water. One thing for sure, the more tests you apply and it comes positive for "like water" can you be sure this liquid is water. It's simple, it's human like behavior and we all do it from the simple ones to the more complex ones all the time. The "good, hopeful, high oxytocin feeling" is something everyone gets from praying. May it be muslims, catholics, latter day saints, protestants, jews, hindus ect... The power of prayer is real. It releases, in some cases massive amounts of oxytocin also named the love hormone in the brain. You can also trigger it by hugging someone, try it you will see, the harder (closer) and the more intimate you are with the person you are hugging the more you release! My whole point is prayer is just one of those tests. Even if the Book of Mormon comes out positive through this test, so does Bible (christians) so does the Koran (muslims) so does the Talmud (jews) and I could list any number of books that people have prayed about and thought it to be true. My response is simple. Just because it looks, smells, and behaves like the liquid in a glass of water doesn't make it water. Just one test doesn't mean the Book of Mormon is true. Prayer is known to make you feel good, and that will be true for any book you are praying about. Shake the glass! Freeze the liquid! Taste it!

Hmm that's not what the others are saying... I'm hearing 1. Times of the Gentiles fulfilled 2. Desolating scourge 3. Gathering of elect have they occured already or have they not ? Desolating scourge... that sounds bad, what, if you could summarize in your own words, would happen during such a scourge?

Hmm why does this generation mean anything else but this generation...?

Thank you for your answer. How though do you choose which generation he is talking about. From reading it I understand it as the generation ending in 1930's... In that time, there was no temple built there were there?

4 Verily this is the word of the Lord, that the city aNew Jerusalem shall be built by the gathering of the saints, beginning at this place, even the place of the temple, which btemple shall be creared in this generation. Oh I see thank you. I thought "this generation" meant it had to be built in the 1930's at the least where "that generation" would have been 100. Thank you for shedding some light on the subject though.

I absolutely love how my lds brothers and sisters are embracing YouTube, I truly do. If I may say something, stay away from the moderated videos comments. Comments about a video are made by the youtube community and should not be moderated, it's someone's opinion on the video! No one moderates opinions of others :) keep that in mind as you are surfing through YouTube, it's filled with wondrous info.

Section 84 1 A arevelation of Jesus Christ unto his servant Joseph Smith, Jun., and six elders, as they bunited their hearts and clifted their voices on high. 2 Yea, the word of the Lord concerning his church, established in the last days for the arestoration of his people, as he has spoken by the mouth of his bprophets, and for the cgathering of his dsaints to stand upon eMount Zion, which shall be the city of fNew Jerusalem. 3 Which city shall be abuilt, beginning at the btemple lot, which is appointed by the finger of the Lord, in the western boundaries of the State of Missouri, and cdedicated by the hand of Joseph Smith, Jun., and others with whom the Lord was well pleased. 4 Verily this is the word of the Lord, that the city aNew Jerusalem shall be built by the gathering of the saints, beginning at this place, even the place of the temple, which btemple shall be creared in this dgeneration. Excuse, I have a general maybe stupid question. I saw this as revelation, was this ever built? Has the revelation come to pass? Was that temple built?