vitaminwater120
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I am interested in the badge-wearing type of missionary work. Can you tell me anything more about those rare exceptions? What factors made it so they were exempt from the regular cut-off age? Was it age? If so, then I think I may have a shot because I am only 27.
Are you sure the cut-off age really has to do with encouraging men to become husbands and fathers? Women do not have a cut-off age. Does this mean the church is not encouraging them to become wives and mothers?
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I joined the church after the cut-off age for men to serve a mission, but I have a strong desire to do missionary work. My questions are, (1) why are men over the age of 26 not allowed to serve missions?, and (2) can any exceptions be made?
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8 minutes ago, Jane_Doe said:
*Sigh*
There is no contradiction between what we know of the Gospel (God that created the world and they why of that creation) and knowing a little bit of the mechanisms He uses to do His wonders (which we can learn some of via science). God is not magician to pull a bunny out of a hat from nothing via "magic", but rather a carpenter who uses laws and principles to accomplish His marvelous work. Learning of those mechanisms is no way dangerous or bad.
What is dangerous and sinful is pride-- when we think we know more and don't need God or we dictate how God works. I've seen scientists with that sin and non-scientists with that sin alike.
I pointed out a contradiction in the OP.
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According to the October 2016 edition of New Era, "nothing has been revealed about evolution" and "the Church has no official position on evolution."
But the Prophet Joseph Fielding Smith and the Prophet Ezra Taft Benson spoke plainly against evolution. The Prophet Joseph Fielding Smith taught:
"It has been truthfully said that organic evolution is Satan’s chief weapon in this dispensation in his attempt to destroy the divine mission of Jesus Christ. It is a contemptible plot against faith in God and to destroy the effective belief in the divine atonement of our Redeemer� There is not and cannot be, any compromise between the Gospel of Jesus Christ and the theories of evolution. Were evolution true, there could be no remission of sin. In fact there could be no sin. (Ibid., p. 184)"
And the Prophet Ezra Taft Benson taught:
"Now, we have not been using the Book of Mormon as we should. Our homes are not as strong unless we are using it to bring our children to Christ. Our families may be corrupted by worldly trends and teachings unless we know how to use the book to expose and combat the falsehoods in socialism, organic evolution, rationalism, humanism, etc."
If the teachings of our own prophets don't constitute an "official position" for a given topic, then the church doesn't have an official position on anything.
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you're missing out on learning opportunities - which is the whole purpose of mortality. imo, there's simply no good reason to turn down a first date (assuming the person who asks you out is an active member of the church).
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Random church member: "Did you serve a mission?"
Me: "No."
Them: "Are you leaving soon to serve a mission?"
Me: "No."
Them: *proceeds to look at me as if I have two heads*
Any advice on how to deal with conversations like this?
FYI, I converted to the church after the cut-off age for men to serve a mission so I have a legitimate reason for not serving.
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10 hours ago, LePeel said:
If she doesn't like you that way it doesn't really matter if you think you're compatible or not. Besides that, a few months isn't long enough to get to know a person sufficiently for marriage.
I just got out of a relationship with a young woman which lasted about two and a half months. We both "love the gospel." Yet I've given up literally all video games, TV, and movies for years now. While she on the other hand loves movies and watches movies which contain things (and I wasn't shy in telling her this) that I would not tolerate in my house should we ever marry. This was a severe clash in lifestyle, yet we both love the gospel.
On the second date we both told each other our deepest and most intimate secrets. She even told me things which she had only ever told to her father. We could talk about literally anything, nothing was too intimate.
And after we broke up she started doing things that I would not have supposed, it was like the Twilight Zone. I really did not know her despite knowing all of her intimate details and spending every waking moment in those two and a half months with her. We even worked together.
And throughout most of this I had a strong anxiety that we had moved too fast, and I constantly gave myself reasons why we ought to be, and it was all stuff like you listed in the OP as compatibilities. I really did like her, but that didn't mean that we should be together.
Breaking up stung and wasn't very comfortable, but that didn't mean it wasn't right.
The idea of trying to convince a girl to like me makes me very uncomfortable. If she doesn't like me for me, I see no reason why I should try to change her mind.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=p8_FOQ7-P30
interesting point. i, too, have given up all video games, tv, and movies for years now but the girl from the op is really into that kind of stuff.
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16 hours ago, Carborendum said:
Nothing here talks about shared values and goals. The Gospel? That's WAY too broad. It's got to be more specific than that.
Here's a hint: Compatability is a myth without values and goals.
The next couple of ingredients: Trust and unselfishness.
You're trying to tell her that she can't trust herself, but she should trust you. Doesn't sound good.
You're trying to get her to listen to you, but you're not listening to her. Doesn't sound good.
can you give some examples of shared values and goals? not sure why you think i'm trying to tell her that she can't trust herself. i'm not. and i'm not sure why you think i'm not listening to her. i am.
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thanks for all the responses. so I decided to stop pursuing this girl because I've noticed she doesn't bring out the best in me (this thread is evidence that she doesn't bring out my best)
14 hours ago, Midwest LDS said:Trust me, when you truly find the right gal, you won't have to convince her to like you☺
perfectly put! i'm pretty sure this is one of the main lessons Heavenly Father is trying to teach me. it's quite true. if you have to convince someone you're compatible, then that means you're definitely not compatible.
15 hours ago, Just_A_Guy said:Bro, that’s just how she makes decisions. She has had at least 18 years to develop a more logical, data-driven approach—and yet, here she is. You aren’t going to change her overnight.
And even if you could persuade her to accept your hand: Do you want every major decision in your married life—from where you live, to how many kids you have, to what employment you pursue—to be contingent on how your wife “feels” about it, wholly independent of fact and reason and logic?
If not, you should probably keep looking. For all your similarities, your differences in decision-making approaches might make you a very unhappy man in the long run.
she's had 27 years to improve her decision-making approach! she's getting blown around like chaff in her life because everything she does is based on feelings. i'm starting to feel sad for her.
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i know it's not a good sign if you have to try and convince another person you're compatible with them, but bear with me. a few months ago I met a girl with whom I have so much in common. we both love the gospel. we both love the holy scriptures. we both love reading. we're both intellectually curious. we both feel like we can be honest and share intimate details of our lives with each other. we both have strengths that complement each other's weaknesses (examples: she is strong when it comes to dealing with people, which is a weakness for me. And I'm strong when it comes to decision-making, which is a weakness for her). we both love science. we both love dancing. etc. I also really enjoy her quirks too (her fidgeting, incessant apologizing, ramblings, etc.). to me, it is blindly obvious that we are supposed to be together but, for her, our commonalities aren't enough because "the feeling isn't there." what are some ways I can explain to her ‘feelings’ alone are not a good basis for choosing an eternal companion?
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In what ways do you think the church downplays the significance of Joseph Smith? Just wondering.