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  1. The first wife asked for the divorce in the first place. Maybe an option for consideration could or should be, just cancel the sealing and let all parties move on?
  2. Good discussion Zil2, and point(s) taken. I just thought the jump all the way to the comparison in regards to the 2nd wife's behaviour, feelings, understanding, etc acting in some way like the adversary was a bit too out there, extreme and overkill. Not appropriate or necessary, in my humble opinion. Also, the question in regards to husbands being ok with their spouse being sealed to another living man at the same time to them was for context, comparison and understanding. I feel it is a valid question and needs to be addressed. Thanks for answering directly. Whether it's two or twenty women discussing a subject, be careful, the Lord has a funny way of putting us in situations we once thought we had all figured out. You may change your opinion and perspective if you are given the opportunity or misfortune someday, possibly in this life, to find yourself in the same situation as wife 2. Experience is the great humbler.
  3. Fair enough in regards to the rules, I get it. Hopefully your post is also aimed at Zil2 as well? I mean a little not so well hidden comparison of wife two to the adversary? Sounds just a bit like a personal attack, don't you think? (Repent, humble yourself, selfish, etc) Also, the reason I asked for people to answer yes or no in regards to the question about women having more than one husband was to try and get a bit of understanding and comparison for the poor women in the church that have to put up with sharing their husbands. It seems that nobody is willing to address this, just misdirection and avoiding the premise. The first wife seems to have gotten off scott free in this discussion. Very curious and telling.
  4. Carborendum hit the nail on the head, "He was married to a sociopath (or possibly a narcissist". Describes my first wife to a tee and still she continues to get the full benefit of the doubt as wife two gets demonised for not wanting to share her husband in any way with an ex wife who asked for the divorce in the first place??? Sounds like a bit of alternate reality in the Twilight Zone to me.
  5. I notice another post has been approved in this discussion just a few minutes ago. I posted my two replies around 8 hours and they have not been added yet? Any reason? I mean, Zil2 compared wife two to the adversary above and it was approved and posted? Confused.
  6. Do any of the women that have commented if favour of the first wife have any actual personal experience with their husband being sealed to two or more women at the same time? And for the men, would you be ok with your wife being sealed to another man while still being sealed to you? It seems as if the second wife has been demonised as someone who needs repentance, humility, understanding, is selfish, etc., all the while, the first wife is laughing her guts out all innocent and in her element. Please answer the question with a yes or no. Please. Conjecture absolutely not necessary for these particular questions. Thank you.
  7. The reason I copied and pasted this letter is that the situation I am in is very similar to the couples above. However, I feel more empathy and understanding for the husband and his new wife's view for the following reasons: 1. The current wife is a fairly new convert to the church and polygamy must sound pretty crazy to her. Just go ask 20 random women on the street for their thoughts and I'm sure you would get 20 out of 20 agreeing with the convert. Possibly the same result with women in the church as well? 2. IF the ex wife IS using the sealing as a control mechanism over the couple, then this is simply wrong and twisted. Rewarded for her bad behaviour. 3. What of the free agency of the man? He desires not to stay sealed to a woman who asked for the divorce in the first place, but is forced to stay 'on the books' so to speak with her anyway? I think the first wife is at a minimum being controlling and selfish. If she is doing this for manipulative purposes, very prideful as well. Why should she be 'rewarded' for this type of behaviour? 4. I agree with his statement that he wouldn't be sealed to a woman who is still sealed to another man. So why should she be told to forgo her feelings, be humble and do something most men would not agree to do? All the while the initiator of the divorce is rewarded for possibly playing a very manipulative game with the new couple. Why should the new couple have to be dealing with the situation anyway? The first wife initiated and wanted the divorce in the first place. 5. Why not grant the cancellation and let the new couple start with a fresh clean slate as the ex wife doesn't want to be married to the man anyway?
  8. Your thoughts on the following letter, Thank you, look forward to your views.