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Concerning this record the Prophet Joseph Smith said: “I told the brethren that the Book of Mormon was the most correct of any book on earth, and the keystone of our religion, and a man would get nearer to God by abiding by its precepts, than by any other book.” I love this quote. Please give me the reference as to where I can find it. I need it to make a point for some people in my church. PM me if you want. Thanks :) :)

[ The commandments we are to keep are all the commandments of God. This includes the Ten Commandments, the commandments from Christ, we are to keep all covenants we make with the Lord, and any new commandments given through prophets of God such as the word of wisdom. Read and study the Bible, Book of Mormon, Doctrine and Covenants, the Pearl of Great Price, and General Conference addresses and you will know what commandments you are to keep. if i'm not mistaken the intro to the section on "word of wisdom" says specifically NOT by way of COMMANDMENT but by the word of wisdom. sometimes we group things together that weren't meant to be. sometimes we put our own spin and interpretation on things by mistake. if new commandments are reveiled that don't jive with the rest of the scriptures i'd think twice about the validity of them.</span>

Can you tell me more about that version? Thank you, Dr. T Joseph finished it around 1833 or so but it was never printed in his lifetime. When Joseph was killed Brigham tried to get it from Emma but she wouldn't let him have it. She maintained possession of it until 1865 when she gave it to her son Joseph 3rd for the Reorganized Church to print. A lot of what is added in the Inspired version is contained in the Book of Moses in the PoP. Interesting though the part where God is talking to Enoch and Noah (the everlasting covenant that God made with them) was left out of the PoP. Maybe so it would be easier to sell the New Everlasting Covenant in section 132. Of course I Believe Brigham Young was the author of 132 not Joseph. I don't know where the statement he never finished came from. It is well documented that Joseph stated the "translation" was finished.

Hey applecore, Are you part of the restoration movement in the RLDS or are you of the more progressive CofC branch (in favour of Stephen Veazey as President)? Just curious. M. There are several clarifications I have to make to answer that correctly. I am CofC but that's just the new name for RLDS. There is a fundamental part of the church that doesn't accept the leadership of the church. They are the one's that typically use the designation RLDS. As for supporting Steve, I do in hopes that he will bring us back to a closer alignment with the restoration values. Actually I was a part of the Buckner congregation that started the whole separation process. I was 1 of 3 that stayed with the church. The other 350 left. I try to apply the scriptures as I understand them. Which makes me a thorn in the side to the church and the "RLDS'. It drives my wife crazy. But I have to do what I feel is right or I'm not being honest with myself or God. Thanks for asking

IMO there will never be an acceptance by the evangelical community as long as those of us in the restoration movement embrace the Book of Mormon. Unfortunantly, in my church our leadership (not the majority) have put the BofM out to pasture. The reason for the existence of the church in the beginning has been trashed because there is no "proof". PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE, NEVER LET THAT HAPPEN TO YOU. We are suffering because of our lack of faith. How can God give us more if we don't accept what He's given us already. Just my thoughts We are different. We're not mainstream because we ARE different. We're supposed to be.

Ya'll are making this much more complicated than it is . I'll post later

Sorry, I missed the point you were trying to make. You quoted multiple scriptures but please condense it so I can understand. What's the bottom line?

There is so many references in the Book of Mormon to the greater records coming forth but only after we have had our faith tested. The Lord says He will try our faith first before we are given more. What about the Ark of the Covenant? It's somewhere. I believe the Lord has protected all these things and more and will bring them forth to the convincing of Jew and Gentile the He is the Savior, the Christ, the Creator. We live in a glorious time and He will make bare His Holy arm in the eyes of all nations. WOW I can hardly wait. See it wasn't that bad now was it? Thanks for letting me share that with you.

Fifth Ether 3:27,28 and 4:2-7 Moroni is telling us about the things that the Bro of Jared wrote and sealed up. Read this part carefully. Then the Lord speaks thru Moroni to us and in vs 6,7 he is pleading with us to repent and come clean before him so he can reveal the greater things to us. Sixth Genesis 13:13 IV The Lord is speaking to Abraham and says He will remember the covenant which He made with him; for it shall be an everlasting covenant and Abraham shall remember the days of Enoch thy father. Well, Enoch wasn't Abraham's father, Terah was. So the Lord is telling Abraham to remember the covenant that was made to Enoch, his ancestor. Seventh Genesis 9:21-25 IV The Lord is covenanting with Noah after the flood and calls it an everlasting covenant, the same that was made with Enoch. When thy posterity shall embrace the truth, they have to know what the truth is first, don't they? In Genesis 7:67-70 it is speaking of the end time. Vs 70 And righteousness and truth will I cause to sweep the earth as with a flood. Sudden, unexpected, can't stop it even if you tried. What is this sudden thing. I believe a big part of it will be the library that Mormon hid up in cumorah. You see, the brass plates are there. The same ones taken from Jerusalem. Don't you think that will speak directly to the Jews? We're told that other records will come forth unto the convincing of Jew and Gentile. The Book of Mormon is a wonderful scripture but it is a book of faith. The original records will be the convincing.

OK, you all need to think outside of the box. IMO it has nothing to do with "the law' or temple rights or blessings or any stuff like that. It's much bigger than that. It has everything to do with the restoration (not mormonism) and the Book of Mormon. Now that I have your attention ( and anger), come on, open your mind and go with me a while. You can have it back when I'm done, OK? First clue In 3 nephi 20:21,22 Jesus very specifically ties "fulfilling of the covenant" with the New Jerusalem. We all know the New Jerusalem is Zion, right? Second clue 3 nephi 20:33-35,39 Jesus continues and in vs 35 makes a statement that should make you tingle. He will make bare His holy arm in the eyes of all nations. That means all the nations will be aware of what He is doing and all the earth will see. It will be done in full view of the whole earth whatever it is. There will be no mistake where it comes from. Third 1 nephi 22:7-12 Nephi reads the Brass Plates and interprets what he read. In vs 7 he speaks of a mighty nation among the gentiles that God raises up (USA) and in vs 10 again it is mentioned that the earth cannot be blessed unless he shall make bare his holy arm in the eyes of all nations, Hmmmmm. Forth 1 nephi 15:12-19 Nephi is teaching his brothers. Vs 13,14 he mentions that the gospel will come from the gentiles to his seed. He further says in vs 14 that his seed shall KNOW they are of the house of Israel. Not think, KNOW

Community of Christ/RLDS I'm friendly to all restoration groups even if their teachings are different from Joseph Smith's. We'll all be together some day when the Nephite library is found. Hope it's soon

I'll have to wait till tomorrow to give my references. All I have is the RLDS version of the BofM. I have the conversion chapter and verse at home. I'm at the fire station today and won't get off till 0700 hrs. Then I have to work construction. Soooo tomorrow evening I'll try to respond. By the way, if you want to check out what we're doing in Mexico you might visit www.hillcumorahexpeditionteam.com

Sorry, I can't handle the one I have. By the way, that wasn't part of the covenant IMO. Been married 35 yrs. with 4 children. Kevin Brown is one of them. He was the one that was lead to find the Proclamation Tablet last year at Hill Cumorah.

This is my first post so it may be goofy but here goes. In 3 Nephi the Savior speaks multiple times about He has come to fulfill the conenant He made with the children of Israel and again the promises He made with their fathers Abraham, Isaac and Jacob. He repeats it several times but never says what that covenant is. I've done some study on it and I think I know what He's refering to. I had to use references from the Book of Mormon and the Inspired Version of the Bible (yes, I'm RLDS- Community of Christ). I just wanted to see if there were any other thoughts out there. If this receives any response, I'll share my conclusions with references if any one's interested]. Thanks for letting me post