Native American DNA?

[StallionMcBeastly]

I have heard multiple times that Native American race traces back to the Asian race, and is not linked to jews like the Book of Mormon suggests. Is what I heard even true? Are they of Asian decent?

I'm confused:confused:

Thanks alot!:)

[THIRDpersonviewer]

DNa is false. DNA is true. There are a lot of small details that go into this. Yes that is true(as is my understanding) that the DNA is Asian. Although recently I heard that there was a discovery of Jewish DNA or something like that, however it has been conveniently hushed up.

Just to pose a hypothesis or theory. For 8 years Lehi and his family traveled in a generally eastward direction. They most likely built the boat in the Vietnam area or China area. Is that not Asia? What's to say that there was not some intermingling or converting of natives and so on? This actually just occurred to me a minute ago as I was reading your post.

[THIRDpersonviewer]

You also have to look at the size and proportion of the Nephites and Lamanites. They were not the only ones on the continent, as evidenced by the Jaredites and the Mulekites. After the Nephites died out, the Lamanites most likely found another group and probably intermingled. They had a 1000 years. This would further "contaminate" the Jewish DNA.

Sorry, I meant to put this on the first one, but I forgot in light of my possible new discovery.:)

[KosherXMorg]

I have heard multiple times that Native American race traces back to the Asian race, and is not linked to jews like the Book of Mormon suggests. Is what I heard even true? Are they of Asian decent?

I'm confused:confused:

Thanks alot!:)

First mistake... they are looking for Hebrew heritage through Mitochondrial (female) DNA. We know from the Book of Mormon the Nephites descended from Joseph through Manasseh, Joseph's wife was Egyptian most likely through Ham's son Put (Potiphara means "from the land of Put", so their testing wouldn't identify Hebrew DNA.

Second, they generally are looking for a Cohenite (Levi) strain, that's how they have identifed African and Indian (from India) "Jews". The Bofdoesn't say one way or another whethe any Cohen's made it here to mingle with the Nephite population.

Third, there are no Nephites left who knows who the Lamanites bred with both during the BofM time period and the intervening years before Spainards arrived?

Swiss cheese anyone?

[Snow]

Just to pose a hypothesis or theory. For 8 years Lehi and his family traveled in a generally eastward direction. They most likely built the boat in the Vietnam area or China area. Is that not Asia? What's to say that there was not some intermingling or converting of natives and so on? This actually just occurred to me a minute ago as I was reading your post.

Scholars believe that Lehi departed from the Middle East, not the Far East.

[Snow]

DNa is false. DNA is true. There are a lot of small details that go into this. Yes that is true(as is my understanding) that the DNA is Asian. Although recently I heard that there was a discovery of Jewish DNA or something like that, however it has been conveniently hushed up.

Specifically - who hushed what up and how? And... how did you find out about it.

Why do you suppose "they" hushed it up?

[THIRDpersonviewer]

Specifically - who hushed what up and how? And... how did you find out about it.

Why do you suppose "they" hushed it up?

I probably shouldn't have said it, but I heard it somewhere and I can't place the source. I think my Dad was talking with some people from Church the other day, who mentioned it. That's why I recently heard.

[Snow]

I probably shouldn't have said it, but I heard it somewhere and I can't place the source. I think my Dad was talking with some people from Church the other day, who mentioned it. That's why I recently heard.

Think about it a moment... who would have the power to hush up archeological discoveries yet be so bad at it that someone at your ward found out about it anyway; besides which, what could the motivation possibly be? Anti-Mormonism?

Makes no sense.

[THIRDpersonviewer]

Scholars believe that Lehi departed from the Middle East, not the Far East.

My understanding from reading the scriptures is that they traveled eastward for eight years, essentially. 1 Nephi 17:1

[KosherXMorg]

My understanding from reading the scriptures is that they traveled eastward for eight years, essentially. 1 Nephi 17:1

They traveled to the southern arabian pennesulia (sp?) and departed for and area about in the area of Yemen.

The Jaredites most likely traveled across Asia and departed from the shores of China or somwhere over there.

[skalenfehl]

After they reached the placed they called Nahom they traveled east towards what they called Bountiful. Before all that, they traveled along the Red Sea which was a Southerly direction from Jerusalem.

http://www.lds.net/forums/share/9872-ball-curious-workmanship-2.html#post178349

[THIRDpersonviewer]

Think about it a moment... who would have the power to hush up archeological discoveries yet be so bad at it that someone at your ward found out about it anyway; besides which, what could the motivation possibly be? Anti-Mormonism?

Makes no sense.

The "hush up" was more figurative. I think the point was that there was no "news" on it and nobody was talking about it. The guy who made mention of this was a scientist. There's probably no motivation on it, other than it would prove prior hypotheses wrong.

[THIRDpersonviewer]

After they reached the placed they called Nahom they traveled east towards what they called Bountiful. Before all that, they traveled along the Red Sea which was a Southerly direction from Jerusalem.

http://www.lds.net/forums/share/9872-ball-curious-workmanship-2.html#post178349

That is some really good drawing. I must say that makes sense. I just cannot understand how it took 8 years to travel that far.

edit [Or rather so little.]

[skalenfehl]

They were on foot, their women were giving birth to babies, made a lot of stops. I suspect they took the Liahona for granted a lot. I also believe this was all preparation for them to inherit the promised land. Think about it. They had no facilities. Their wandering through the wilderness toughened them up for what lay ahead.

[THIRDpersonviewer]

Yeah, that does make a lot of sense. I was looking at this last week, but I remember thinking:

They had traveled in a southeast-southerly direction. So I figure they are going down the Arabian Peninsula, then it says they traveled in an easterly direction. That caught me a little bit as I was looking at the time. So I figured it meant in general, their movement was toward the east which would put them in the Far East.

I didn't really think too much more on it from that point because we had company over last week. That conclusion had satisfied me.

[skalenfehl]

Without pulling out my BoM and posting the references, I'll just quickly note that they traveled along the Red Sea, which is a huge clue. The rest of the places named and described give big clues as to the actual locations today, which have been visited and documented by researchers. My drawing post has a link to site with pictures and video clips featuring the actual places visited. It's really cool to track.

[THIRDpersonviewer]

I don't have time to look at it tonight, but I'll take a look tomorrow. I know where you were talking about where it says they went down along the red sea. Then about the time it says they headed eastward they went into a desert-like area I think. Then they ended up in a fruitful area(I don't remember the names but would assume Bountiful). I think this also added to my prior conclusion because the Far East is very fruitful and plentiful. A lush living environment. However that Southern, Southeastern part of the Arabian peninsula I understand to be really fruitful too.

Thanks for all the info.