Adam In America?

[Guest curvette]

Originally posted by Jenda@Feb 17 2004, 05:41 PM

It doesn't seem strange to you that every major civilization (even savage civilizations) have a great flood myth. Not just those who's culture stems from the middle east.

Not at all. When the ocean levels suddenly rose from all of those glaciers melting at the end of the ice age, costal areas all over the world were suddenly underwater. This affected every continent, certainly not just the middle east.

[Guest curvette]

Originally posted by TheProudDuck@Feb 17 2004, 05:40 PM

Actually, there's an interesting argument to be made that "Ray" is not a proper name, but a category of Iron Rod Mormon -- kind of like "Elias" is stated by the Church not be be a proper name, but rather a special office in the Priesthood, thus allowing "Elias" and "Elijah" to be different people (consistent with the fact that Mormon scripture refers to them as different people), and not merely Greek and Hebrew versions of the same name.

So Paul can be both Paul and Ray at the same time, and my quoting Paul under the name "Ray" is perfectly accurate. Because proud ducks never make careless mistakes. B)

Very clever Duck! You should have your own apologetics website!

[Guest Taoist_Saint]

Originally posted by curvette+Feb 17 2004, 06:02 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (curvette @ Feb 17 2004, 06:02 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin--Jenda@Feb 17 2004, 05:41 PM

It doesn't seem strange to you that every major civilization (even savage civilizations) have a great flood myth.  Not just those who's culture stems from the middle east.

Not at all. When the ocean levels suddenly rose from all of those glaciers melting at the end of the ice age, costal areas all over the world were suddenly underwater. This affected every continent, certainly not just the middle east.

So there was a widespread flood...it just didn't cover ALL the land?

Interesting...

So that would place Noah at about 12,000 BC?

Ok, I just looked it up...

http://www.iceagefloodsinstitute.org/

During the last Ice Age (18,000 to 12,000 years ago), and in multiple previous Ice Ages, cataclysmic floods inundated portions of the Pacific Northwest from Glacial Lake Missoula, pluvial Lake Bonneville, and perhaps from subglacial outbursts. Glacial Lake Missoula was a body of water as large as some of the USA's Great Lakes. This lake formed from glacial meltwater that was dammed by a lobe of the Canadian ice sheet. Episodically, perhaps every 40 to 140 years, the waters of this huge lake forced its way past the ice dam, inundating parts of the Pacific Northwest. Eventually, the ice receded northward far enough that the dam did not reform, and the flooding episodes ceased.

So Adam lived in Missouri, and his descendents migrated to the Pacific Northwest.

Noah built his boat and went across the pacific to the Middle East.

[Snow]

Originally posted by curvette+Feb 17 2004, 06:02 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (curvette @ Feb 17 2004, 06:02 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin--Jenda@Feb 17 2004, 05:41 PM

It doesn't seem strange to you that every major civilization (even savage civilizations) have a great flood myth. 

Not at all.

Okay. Then, does it seem strange that I was raised by a pack of she-wolves in wilds and that not only can you not step in the same stream twice, you can't even step in the same stream once (because the stream is constantly changing )

[Guest curvette]

Originally posted by Snow@Feb 17 2004, 06:08 PM

Okay. Then, does it seem strange that I was raised by a pack of she-wolves in wilds and that not only can you not step in the same stream twice, you can't even step in the same stream once (because the stream is constantly changing )

Snow. I've known you since you were 12. I've learned to love your strangenesses!

[Guest curvette]

Originally posted by Taoist_Saint@Feb 17 2004, 06:07 PM

So Adam lived in Missouri, and his descendents migrated to the Pacific Northwest.

Noah built his boat and went across the pacific to the Middle East.

Hmph. Except that Adam and Eve went EAST out of Eden.

[Guest Taoist_Saint]

Originally posted by curvette+Feb 17 2004, 06:15 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (curvette @ Feb 17 2004, 06:15 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin--Taoist_Saint@Feb 17 2004, 06:07 PM

So Adam lived in Missouri, and his descendents migrated to the Pacific Northwest. 

Noah built his boat and went across the pacific to the Middle East.

Hmph. Except that Adam and Eve went EAST out of Eden.

That's ok...so they lived in New York for awhile, then their descendents went west

[Guest Starsky]

Originally posted by Snow+Feb 17 2004, 05:57 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Snow @ Feb 17 2004, 05:57 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>

Originally posted by -Jenda@Feb 17 2004, 05:08 PM

Originally posted by -Rodney@Feb 17 2004, 05:06 PM

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Like I said, once you believe in The Flood, anything is possible 

Or Peter Pan, Santa Claus, The Easter Bunny, Men on the Sun...

Oh, good. Another doubter!

Not likely.

It's one of the regular doubters with a brand spanking new name.

Gosh, you would think that guy is on an elastic string....boing, boing, boing....LOL

[Guest curvette]

Originally posted by Taoist_Saint@Feb 17 2004, 06:20 PM

That's ok...so they lived in New York for awhile, then their descendents went west

I guess it wouldn't have mattered which way Noah sailed if the whole world was underwater. If he'd had any sense he would have stuck around and landed in the Sierras!