OneEternalSonata Posted November 8, 2009 Report Posted November 8, 2009 A righteous life is requisite for attaining Godhood, yes, but I've never seen it been taught that mortality must be lived first. Quite the contrary, isn't the Holy Spirit a God who is yet to live on the earth? To me, eternal and everlasting are not specific to our "eternity". So, as I understand it, Heavenly Father didn't go through his mortal probation in our instance of eternity, but He has always been God in this instance. My mind hurts just trying to explain it(poorly), but I hope I've been at least a little helpful. (This is not official doctrine, as far as I know. It is my personal theory.) Quote
fatima Posted November 8, 2009 Report Posted November 8, 2009 As a Catholic, I'm off to Mass, as I'm sure you are all off to your wards for the better part of the day. See you later, and have a holy Sabbath day. Quote
symphonyofdissent Posted November 8, 2009 Report Posted November 8, 2009 Yep and that's exactly what I'm doing I think it's fair to see both sides of the equation and if somebody has an objection about the LDS church, I come to y'all or ask the Mormon missionary I've been speaking with online, etc. If it's the fullness of the Gospel, it will be proven as Truth. If I haven't said it enough, thanks to you and everybody else on this site as well as Heavenly Father who has guided me here as well through my old friend from high school. It's definitely been a fun journey so far. :)As a recent convert to the church ( I was baptized 4 months ago) all I can say is keep looking! That spirit that you have felt will guide you through all the objections and doubts because its a powerful force. God wants to reach out to all of us regardless of our 'education' or access to knowledge and this is why prayer and the spirit can be so powerful. We all have access to the blessings that come from it.In regard to your question, we believe that Jesus was the God of the old testament/Israel Jehovah. As such, he of course is unchanging and fully divine. From the first interaction with mankind, Christ was fully God and fully perfect. Yet, all Christians also believe that christ was a mortal that was born, aged and died. How someone can be born fully human and fully divine is a mystery that I don't think we will be able to fully comprehend in this life. Quote
symphonyofdissent Posted November 8, 2009 Report Posted November 8, 2009 How timely is this question? I've been trying to hammer out an understanding on other threads. No one has answered your question yet, on this thread. I've been told that Jesus was, indeed, part of the Godhead before becoming man and living a righteous life, which, as I see it, is in direct contradiction to what I think I've understood so far about LDS doctrine; that is, that living a righteous life is a pre-requisite to exaltation.The way I understand it at least is that Christ was able to do what we need to come to this life to do while in the pre mortal existence. Perhaps his willingness to put himself up as a sacrifice in the pre-mortal council and his willingness to fight alongside God in the war against Satan was enough to lead to his divine status. All of us to some degree or another were incomplete in our progress towards deity and therefore needed to come to earth and to be born. Does that make sense? (This is speculation of course, but its the way I think of it at least.) Quote
curtishouse Posted November 8, 2009 Author Report Posted November 8, 2009 Interesting. I thought I had answered his question concerning the interpretation of that scripture.You did and quite well actually. :) Quote
pam Posted November 8, 2009 Report Posted November 8, 2009 Why thank you. I truly do appreciate you saying that. Quote
pam Posted November 8, 2009 Report Posted November 8, 2009 Ohhh and yes I've been up all night. hahaha Quote
curtishouse Posted November 8, 2009 Author Report Posted November 8, 2009 Ohhh and yes I've been up all night. hahahaSleeping's for sissies! LOL I got a good five hours and I'm good to go for the morning :) Quote
pam Posted November 8, 2009 Report Posted November 8, 2009 Oh but you slept. Does that make you a semi sissy? Quote
curtishouse Posted November 8, 2009 Author Report Posted November 8, 2009 Oh but you slept. Does that make you a semi sissy?Guilty as charged LOL Now don't be making the cardinal sin of forums again and quoting what I say in context! That ain't allowed! LOL Quote
pam Posted November 8, 2009 Report Posted November 8, 2009 Shhhhh your secret is safe with me. And anyone else that reads this thread. lol Quote
pam Posted November 8, 2009 Report Posted November 8, 2009 Okay so what is the next semi simple question for the day? Remember I've had no sleep. haha Quote
curtishouse Posted November 8, 2009 Author Report Posted November 8, 2009 Okay so what is the next semi simple question for the day? Remember I've had no sleep. hahaIs there a way for me to go to my Baptist church and try out an LDS church at the same time even though they both start at the same time? LOL Quote
pam Posted November 8, 2009 Report Posted November 8, 2009 Uh uh uh uh uh uh uh...Hey I said semi simple. Okay probably not. Quote
pam Posted November 8, 2009 Report Posted November 8, 2009 Wait..there is probably more than one ward there. Perhaps there is one out of your boundaries that starts later in the day. Quote
curtishouse Posted November 8, 2009 Author Report Posted November 8, 2009 Wait..there is probably more than one ward there. Perhaps there is one out of your boundaries that starts later in the day.Well about to leave now for church...Maybe I'll try it out next week Thanks for all of your help and please get some sleep LOL Quote
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