Moroni 3:5 Question


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Guest mormonmusic
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In Moroni 3:5, it says "Now when you shall read these things, if it be wisdom in God you should read them....."

Why do you think Moroni wrote "if it be wisdom in God you should read them"? It sounds like God might make these scriptures UNAVAILABLE to people, due to his own wise reasons. This doesn't make sense to me, as I believe reading the BofM will be good for just about anybody.

Anyone have any ideas what that phrase "if it be wisdom in God you should read them....."

means?

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I probably agree with how you see it. But more probably from the other side. Not that God controls who gets to read the book of mormon or not, but more that some were blessed to read it. (Maybe those are the same thing?).

I wonder also if it means more, trusting in God. More that you go that far through the book of mormon having trust in God. That you keept going through it to this point.

Guest mormonmusic
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I believe it means that if the person who is reading and praying is really seeking wisdom from God, or if he really is genuine in his intent.

I think Moroni 3:4 says that -- "if ye shall ask with a real intent.....". which covers what you're saying here. So I think the "if it be wisdom in God that ye shall read them" part means something different.

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In Moroni 3:5, it says "Now when you shall read these things, if it be wisdom in God you should read them....."

Why do you think Moroni wrote "if it be wisdom in God you should read them"? It sounds like God might make these scriptures UNAVAILABLE to people, due to his own wise reasons. This doesn't make sense to me, as I believe reading the BofM will be good for just about anybody.

Anyone have any ideas what that phrase "if it be wisdom in God you should read them....."

means?

God doesn't want everyone to be Mormon. Some peoplemay be better suited as Catholic, or Muslim, or whatever. What we know is not as important as what we do with what we know. A faithful Bahai will recieve a greater reward than a Mormon who doesn't obey the commandments.

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I was thinking of those places where the church and church materials are not allowed. While in Bulgaria, I taught some Chinese people who were estatic to receive the BoM in their native language. It was God's wisdom for them to receive that book at that time.

Just a thought.

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I believe it means that if the person who is reading and praying is really seeking wisdom from God, or if he really is genuine in his intent.

Exactly. Expedient as in, are they spiritually mature enough to sincerely seek knowledge of the truthfulness of the BoM?

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I think Moroni 3:4 says that -- "if ye shall ask with a real intent.....". which covers what you're saying here. So I think the "if it be wisdom in God that ye shall read them" part means something different.

The scriptures repeat themselves many times.

The basis of this promise is if someone is really seeking to know if the Nephite record is an actual account of real people, and if they really did see and speak with Jesus Christ.

If someone doubts, and is not believing, and not honestly asking God if it is true, or honestly seeking wisdom or enlightenment from God, then there is no promise.

I think it is important enough to mention twice.

So many people read the Book of Mormon and, for whatever reason, have their mind made up before they ask, or at least have trouble setting aside the teaching of man that the Bible is the ONLY word of God.

2 Nephi 27, 28, or 29 (somewhere in there) addresses it.

Guest mormonmusic
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The scriptures repeat themselves many times.

The basis of this promise is if someone is really seeking to know if the Nephite record is an actual account of real people, and if they really did see and speak with Jesus Christ.

If someone doubts, and is not believing, and not honestly asking God if it is true, or honestly seeking wisdom or enlightenment from God, then there is no promise.

I think it is important enough to mention twice.

So many people read the Book of Mormon and, for whatever reason, have their mind made up before they ask, or at least have trouble setting aside the teaching of man that the Bible is the ONLY word of God.

2 Nephi 27, 28, or 29 (somewhere in there) addresses it.

This still appears to refer to real intent, in my view, not the condition "if it be wisdom in God that ye shall read them". This say nothing about the intent or desire of the individual, it describes the fact that some may not be blessed to even read the BoM. I don't see how "if it be wisdom in God that ye shall read them" can be construed to mean "if you have an open mind" or "if you sincerely want to know".

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Easy. Try:

If you are reading this to seek wisdom about God...

Those words can clearly mean that. Jesus said it is life eternal to know God and Jesus Christ. That should be wisdom we seek for.

Now, if you say there is also another meaning, I wouldn't doubt you. I have found that most scriptures have dual meanings.

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