2 Nephi 28:9

[pam]

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9 Yea, and there shall be many which shall teach after this manner, false and vain and foolish doctrines, and shall be puffed up in their hearts, and shall seek deep to hide their counsels from the Lord; and their works shall be in the dark.

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Certainly, some blame can be attached to the voices from lecture platforms, editorial rooms, or broadcasting stands, and even from the pulpit.

Such voices may have to answer for their perpetuating falsehood and their failure to give true leadership in combating evil….From among the discordant voices we are shocked at those of many priests who encourage the defilement of men and wink at the eroding trends and who deny the omniscience of God. Certainly these men should be holding firm, yet some yield to popular clamor.

I give some quotes from the press:

“Many churchmen are reluctant to give a definite yes or no to marijuana.”…

Other religious leaders are saying: “…precise rules of Christian conduct should not necessarily apply to problems of sexuality.”…

Only this month the press quoted the retired head of a populous church proposing “revival of old-style betrothals which would permit young unmarried couples to sleep together with the church’s blessing,” and “it would not be regarded in the moral sense as fornication.”

Spencer W. Kimball, General Conference, Apr. 1971

[yorkiebeebs]

Reference Search: 2 Nephi 28:9

9 Yea, and there shall be many which shall teach after this manner, false and vain and foolish doctrines, and shall be puffed up in their hearts, and shall seek deep to hide their counsels from the Lord; and their works shall be in the dark.

Quote for Discussion

Certainly, some blame can be attached to the voices from lecture platforms, editorial rooms, or broadcasting stands, and even from the pulpit.

Such voices may have to answer for their perpetuating falsehood and their failure to give true leadership in combating evil….From among the discordant voices we are shocked at those of many priests who encourage the defilement of men and wink at the eroding trends and who deny the omniscience of God. Certainly these men should be holding firm, yet some yield to popular clamor.

I give some quotes from the press:

“Many churchmen are reluctant to give a definite yes or no to marijuana.”…

Other religious leaders are saying: “…precise rules of Christian conduct should not necessarily apply to problems of sexuality.”…

Only this month the press quoted the retired head of a populous church proposing “revival of old-style betrothals which would permit young unmarried couples to sleep together with the church’s blessing,” and “it would not be regarded in the moral sense as fornication.”

Spencer W. Kimball, General Conference, Apr. 1971

I would love to know the source of this. I'm not doubting it in any way, I just am curious. I looked up this article and wow, it's so much like what's going on today. Thank you for this reference.

[pam]

Not sure I would be able to find a press quote from this as this talk was in 1971.

[rubondfan2]

Not sure I would be able to find a press quote from this as this talk was in 1971.

When posed with a challenge like the one above to cite a source of an obscure quote made in a news publication a year before I was even born, I turn to the Great Google... (tongue firmly in cheek here).

Lo and behold, I think I've found it!

"Nowadays young people develop more quickly than they did in my day," says the Most Rev. Geoffrey Francis Fisher, 83, the former Archbishop of Canterbury. In a new book, Touching on Christian Truth, Dr. Fisher proposes to help the young avoid the sin of fornication by reviving the ancient rite of betrothal. "It would have to take place with the full consent of the two families," he wrote. "It would, in fact, be a sacramental act, made, as indeed marriage itself is, essentially by the two persons themselves. After that, sexual intercourse between them would not be regarded as, in the moral sense, fornication." Marriage and children would follow when and if the two parties felt ready for it.

People, Mar. 29, 1971 - TIME

It would appear that Reverend Fisher published a book in which he makes the above proposal.

[pam]

Good job. I was just too lazy to do it.