Celestial Kingdom entrance requirements

[Rob Osborn]

7 hours ago, wenglund said:

I hear you. The ten commandments are pretty simple, though not as simple as the two great commandments. Why did Christ have to go and complicate things with the whole spirit.letter tiered distinctions, and the added layers of beatitudes and parables, not to mention the confounding figurative speaking?

Why did Paul and the other apostles have to stump us with, among many things, the faith and works conundrum?

Why is the Church, then and now, trying to increasingly feed us meat? Why can't we just have gospel 

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All this new light and knowledge is just way too hard.

Thanks, -Wade Englund-

The problem is we are trying to digest meat when we have no comprehension of digesting the milk first. And so, everything gets screwed up.

[Rob Osborn]

Imagine a teacher coming into class on the first day and telling her 1st grade students that she had a big prize, the best of all, and would be awarded to the student who achieved the ability to know and understand advanced calculus by the end of the school year. She shows them the Grand prize and cthe kids gasp in great joy and adtonishment. And then, a student asks- "what is advanced calculus?" The teacher thinks about it for a minute and says "well, let's just say it has to do with numbers". Then, the teacher immediately moves the discussion along and encouragingly states "today we are going to begin learning about numbers". The kids, with their eyes on the prize, attentively pay attention to soak in the learning. 

This reminds me of these kind of discussions regarding heaven where we are the 1st graders trying to learn and achieve a status that is far advanced over what is possible to achieve in our short elementary lives here in mortality.

[wenglund]

On 6/2/2018 at 8:41 AM, Rob Osborn said:

The problem is we are trying to digest meat when we have no comprehension of digesting the milk first. And so, everything gets screwed up.

If so, then it ought to question what God has been thinking by piling more and more meat in front of us. Maybe, in some ways, God isn't as smart as us?

Thanks, -Wade Englund-

Edited June 3, 2018 by wenglund

[Rob Osborn]

5 hours ago, wenglund said:

If so, then it ought to question what God has been thinking by piling more and more meat in front of us. Maybe, in some ways, God isn't as smart as us?

Thanks, -Wade Englund-

 God is giving us milk and meat but we fail to digest the milk first and head straight for the meat.

[wenglund]

55 minutes ago, Rob Osborn said:

 God is giving us milk and meat but we fail to digest the milk first and head straight for the meat.

Kind of silly of God to to give us meat knowing we will supposedly go straight for it instead of digesting the milk. God should have talked with you first since you have it figured out.

Thanks -Wade Englund-

[Rob Osborn]

51 minutes ago, wenglund said:

Kind of silly of God to to give us meat knowing we will supposedly go straight for it instead of digesting the milk. God should have talked with you first since you have it figured out.

Thanks -Wade Englund-

No, it's only silly on our part. It's manifest in these threads. Take any one simple doctrine and when one starts expounding on it we find just how very little we understand it. If we can't correctly understand the basic principles of salvation (milk) then how do we possibly expect to understand more complex doctrines?

I don't have very much figured out but what I do know is that we have very little figured out collectively as a church body. Even one small topic such as "hell" has varried beliefs on everything from a physical place to a mindset to even heaven. 

[wenglund]

24 minutes ago, Rob Osborn said:

No, it's only silly on our part. It's manifest in these threads. Take any one simple doctrine and when one starts expounding on it we find just how very little we understand it. If we can't correctly understand the basic principles of salvation (milk) then how do we possibly expect to understand more complex doctrines?

I don't have very much figured out but what I do know is that we have very little figured out collectively as a church body. Even one small topic such as "hell" has varried beliefs on everything from a physical place to a mindset to even heaven. 

Certainly you have more figured out than the rest of us.

Thanks, -Wade Enlgund-

[Rob Osborn]

8 hours ago, wenglund said:

Certainly you have more figured out than the rest of us.

Thanks, -Wade Enlgund-

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