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  1. Yes, many of them. I am the weird uncle in the family after all. Thanks, -Wade Englund-
  2. I can somewhat relate to this: Thanks, -Wade Englund-
  3. I respect the apologies, and even more the healthy self-reflection and taking some responsibility. Well done. [thumbs up] However, I have to say that I have participated in online discussion for nearly 3 decades, across a variety of venues (politics, religion, etc.), and this board has been one of the mildest in my experience, which is unusual given the near invisibility of board moderating--which tells me that the board participants her are generally uncommonly civil and keep themselves in check. And, while there may be some name-calling and personal attacks on occasion, mostly it is good-natured ribbing or a well-intended wake-up call. So, I am not seeing the toxicity, though I may be jaded. However, I have noticed that various board participants have found the exchanges here somewhat off-putting because they haven't experience much in the way of challenges to their point of view, particularly challenges that are well reasoned and compelling. This is especially true of participants whose views are more in line with popular culture, and /or who are used to agreement, particularly among the majority to which they are a part. It can be rather jarring to come to a board where the majority, or at least the vocal majority, tend to stand contrary to pop culture. Even still, it is not uncommon for many if not most of us to find various exchanges counterproductive--a waste of time, or a less meaningful use of our time. In that sense it may be viewed as toxic. Often, though, this is corrected by taking a much needed break from the board, or from certain topics, and even from certain board participants. Anyway, as for feeling the Spirit, in my experience it depends upon at least two things: 1) the topic. The more political and less religiously oriented the topic, the less likely I am to feel the Spirit, and vice versa--which makes sense 2) Where my head and heart are at as I participate. The more I relying on the Spirit to guide what I say, the greater the likelihood that i will feel the Spirit. And, the more I rely on the Spirit in trying to understand and glean value from what others say, the more I feel the Spirit. And, vice versa. I can honestly say that some interactions here, and some amazing posts, have rivaled, if not exceeded in spiritual enhancement what I have felt in Sunday School or other church meetings. But, again, that may just be me. The bottom line, from my lengthy experience, is that the toxicity or spirituality of what I experience here is largely dependent upon me rather than on others. As with much of life, I am largely in control of the efficacy of my online experience. I tend to receive from the discussion table what I bring to the discussion table. Just some things to consider. Thanks, -Wade Enlgund-
  4. At least you implicitly admit to being a "kettle." That is something. Thanks, -Wade Englund-
  5. I had thought to comment on whether people on the Left or the Right are more inclined to admit to their mistakes and apologize or not. But I figured it would be uncharitable and feed into certain stereotypes. So, I will simply express my admiration instead for the graciousness of this apology. I trust it didn't kill you to say it. Thanks, -Wade Englund-
  6. It is because we are more in agreement about the heterosexual immorality, which is why it is less controversial. Ironically, that is the rub. Logically, there shouldn't be as much disagreement about homosexual immorality as there is about heterosexual immorality. But, pop culture has granted special status to homosexuals, and members, like yourself, cater to that unwarranted favoritism. If you and other left-leaning members were consistent, there wouldn't be the greater degree of disagreement and controversy. [Edit: I just noticed that others have iterated and reiterated this point earlier in the thread. But, evidently it bears repeating since it seems to be lost on some] Thanks, -Wade Englund-
  7. In a sense, the marriage made moot the need for repentance. That which was wrong (at least in terms of appearances) was made right by the marriage. Thanks, -Wade Englund-
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    Is it just me?

    These articles may provide a good starting point for your research:: A Case For Ancient Temple Ordinances. and Ancient Temples and Their Functions. and Eternal Marriage and Family in the Old Testament. Thanks, -Wade Englund-
  9. ..if not also terribly ill-informed. But, false equivalencies have long been a staple of the Left. Thanks, -Wade Englund-
  10. Your post had me chuckling. However, joking aside, if you think the lack of sexual attraction makes marriage a horrible idea, then logically wouldn't that mean that the loss of sexual attraction would make staying in a marriage a horrible idea as well? Isn't the high divorce rate argument the same? Where is the social sympathy for the high-powered males who marry raving beauties only to later find them gaining weight and wrinkles, sagging in places, and experiencing the unpleasantness of menopause, etc. If these alpha types subsequently lose sexual interest in their spouses, particularly when there are willing, younger raving beauties about, should they not follow their heart and their sexual attractions? Many of them do now anyway--not just by way of divorce, but also adultery?. To me, this is the problem with secular-social "reasoning." There is nothing to prevent "immorality" creep" and the eventual normalization thereof. Besides, isn't the "high rate of divorce" argument a product of " immorality creep"--the increased acceptance of divorce and immoral sexual activities? Prior to the gay movement in the mid 70, not a few gay men got married, and stayed married. It was only afterwards, when gays divorcing their heterosexual spouses became vogue, that the high rate of divorce became a factor. Supposed compassion and understanding made matters worse for gays. Thanks, -Wade Englund-
  11. That is understandable, particularly in an age where romance and sexuality has been given such paramount importance. However, I would caution you in making such statements because it could rile the gay community of all places. For their own reasons, they have been working tirelessly to down play the sexuality aspect of their relationships, and dramatically magnify the love and care and "family" dimensions,. Whereas, what you stated above inadvertently does the opposite. I understand your good intention, though they may not. Just say'in. Thanks, -Wade Englund-
  12. There is a strong tendency these days to rationalize not doing what God desires of us and what is in our best interest. I don't see any written exceptions to the first commandment, but maybe there is. As you suggest, that would be between God and each individual. Nevertheless, it is good to stress the general rule, and that is what I was doing., Thanks, -Wade Englund-
  13. I would agree were that viewpoint a rightful cause for positive change. At this point, it isn't with me--though that may say less about the commend-ability of the viewpoint, and more about the condemn-abiltiy of me. I have quite a ways to go in meaningfully curtailing my selfishness and pride. But, at least the honesty lets me know where I am at in relation to where I ought to be, so that when I finally get my stuff together, it will make it easier to set a course and fly--assuming time doesn't run out. Thanks, -Wade Englund-
  14. A homosexual living in celibacy has remarkable self control, dedication to the faith and discipline. Those are remarkable traits, and I'd be so proud to call them my brothers/sisters. As someone who has been celibate for nearly a half century,, I can tell you that it isn't worthy of high regard and admiration, but quite the opposite. We celibates, regardless of sexual orientation, have failed to keep the first command, and have put ourselves in jeopardy of defying the will of God by not positioning ourselves to become exalted as He is. It is essentially an act of selfishness that not only limits our own potential and denies us some of the greatest blessings, but may also negatively impact those spirits we could have brought into this world. I look back with sorrow and regret and humility rather than self-satisfaction and pride. My obedience in not committing sins of sexual commission are overshadowed by my sins of sexual omission. But, that may just be my way of looking at it. Thanks -Wade Engund-
  15. this is the higher law. Clearly, not all are prepared to abide it. Thanks, -Wade Englund-