rosie321 Posted June 17, 2007 Report Posted June 17, 2007 I was listening to a christian speaker I found from flipping through the radio the other day. He made comments I had heard before but struck me very differently now. He was talking about the fact that the Jews didn't kill Christ. We did and that he and his sin were personally responsible for Christs death. He killed Christ. I have always understood speakers who said things like that in the past said it to help illustrate that everyone has sinned and then theres the saving grace of christ. I was always able to understand why people said things like that. But the other day it did not make sense to me from a christian perspective for the first time. For the LDS beliefs it seemed doctrinally off. 1. Adam sinned and ate the apple. He brought death into the world. Then from a christian perspective we are being punished for Adams wrong doing. Any sins that entered in after he ate the fruit would be as a result from the action of being removed from God's presence. Or if sin was always present from the start why would a perfect God let an evil being roam seeking whom he would destroy? Could God even create an evil being? It makes you think about who God is and what is powers really are. From LDS perspective (more will follow) it is believed we are punished for our sins and not Adam's transgressions. But yet in a way we are. That act did seperate us (regardless of what following joy/sorrow we may obtain from it). 2. Why are we here? Especially from a traditional Christian view? What is the purpose of God in keeping us around in a messed up world? Why would you create new people and stick them in a messed up world of sin? Would you send your child to party into the worst area you can think of where people are getting hurt, killed, raped etc? Or would you stop it? If Christ died in the meridian of time before us then we did not kill Christ. Shouldn't the world have stopped then? If we are reopening the wounds every time we sin then why does God keep allowing this to happen? Seems like a pretty cruel way to say you are in control of a world. This makes a little more sense from an LDS perspective. We chose what we got. We were put in places to test us according to what we can handle. When we fail it would be more of our doing. It wouldn't necessarily be as a result of Adam's transgression but acts/ propensities that may have happened/developed prior. There's a whole chapter of life that happened before the one that we were in that we don't know about. Quote
orrinjelo Posted June 17, 2007 Report Posted June 17, 2007 1. Adam sinned and ate the apple. He brought death into the world. Then from a christian perspective we are being punished for Adams wrong doing. Any sins that entered in after he ate the fruit would be as a result from the action of being removed from God's presence. Or if sin was always present from the start why would a perfect God let an evil being roam seeking whom he would destroy? Could God even create an evil being? It makes you think about who God is and what is powers really are. From LDS perspective (more will follow) it is believed we are punished for our sins and not Adam's transgressions. But yet in a way we are. That act did seperate us (regardless of what following joy/sorrow we may obtain from it).2. Why are we here? Especially from a traditional Christian view? What is the purpose of God in keeping us around in a messed up world? Why would you create new people and stick them in a messed up world of sin? Would you send your child to party into the worst area you can think of where people are getting hurt, killed, raped etc? Or would you stop it? If Christ died in the meridian of time before us then we did not kill Christ. Shouldn't the world have stopped then? If we are reopening the wounds every time we sin then why does God keep allowing this to happen? Seems like a pretty cruel way to say you are in control of a world.This makes a little more sense from an LDS perspective. We chose what we got. We were put in places to test us according to what we can handle. When we fail it would be more of our doing. It wouldn't necessarily be as a result of Adam's transgression but acts/ propensities that may have happened/developed prior. There's a whole chapter of life that happened before the one that we were in that we don't know about.Here's how I view it--we may have to suffer from our parents' actions, but we will not be held against it at the judgment bar. We may be born in a really bad situation, but we can still dig ourselves out of it if we want. Quote
Guest Yediyd Posted June 17, 2007 Report Posted June 17, 2007 Here's how I view it--we may have to suffer from our parents' actions, but we will not be held against it at the judgment bar. We may be born in a really bad situation, but we can still dig ourselves out of it if we want.Here, Here!!! I'm proof of that!!! Quote
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