my patriarchal blessing is rehearsed

[Hemidakota]

shortly after joining the church I had my PB and at that time I must say that I was not sure how true it all was. While receiving my blessings, things were told to me that only applied to me and my health that nobody knew about. I was in shock and couldn't wait to get my copy so I could read these wonderful words about me and my future again and again. I have a strong testimony of the truthfulness of by blessing and the Patriach that blessed me.

Marty

A road map that can be obtained through obedience.

I was told after my conversation to receive a PB and to remember to bring a pad and pen to the blessing. In a PB, there are statements made that will not be recorded and others that will be. To my surprise, that did happen. I asked the PB, why this is so and waere not recorded in the PB when I received it. He told me that it was between the Lord and you. There were questions I had in my heart but did not make it known to the Patriarch prior to the blessing. They were answered during the PB…interesting.

[Guest Username-Removed]

Mine doesnt have anything regarding the resurrection at all. My bishop and partriarch said .... "woops" LOL

They offered another one, but to be honest, I felt mine was so good with specifics.. and I do mean specifics.. that I wanted to leave it the way it was! LOL

I showed mine to a close missionary companion once and he was like .... "Um they dont usually get that specific ... dude". And im like, "Really????". So after that experience, I dont talk about the specifics of my patriarchal blessing anymore.

I alot of the things in there seem to be very recognized now, with events that have happened in my life. They say it continues to work, but I sometimes wonder if there was such a thing as a patriarchal blessing "Part II" that it might be a good thing. I suppose thats why we go to the temple to get that kind of inspiration.

[Hemidakota]

My second daughter had the same issue but she realized it wasn't important since her temple marriage made it specific and her husband had it spelled out. LOL

I do place personal revelation as the PART II to our PB in life.

[rameumptom]

yeah. Its been a couple months now since i first posted this forum. I suppose a lot of what you're all saying does make sense. Men are men..and human.

i just gotta give it time and have more faith. Which is something im prepared to do.

PS: how do you figure im a dependent person Margin?

Yes, men (and women) are human. Your Patriarch may have had a lousy day on the day you received your blessing. Or it might be you that is being overly human and not trusting in the fact that he was inspired. The key is, he was called of God and ordained by those holding priesthood authority. Most Patriarchs I know strive to have the spirit with them when they give blessings. They are instructed to minimize their television watching, and other things that can distract from having the Holy Ghost as a constant companion.

A Patriarchal Blessing is a spiritual thing, and answers can only come through spiritual means. If we have become cynical and doubting about the gospel, we shouldn't be focused on the patriarchal blessing, but on redeveloping our testimony of the gospel. Satan tries to have small things shake us up, and gets us so fixated on the minor thing, that we lose sight of the most important things.

You mentioned having a difficult time praying, for example. 2 Nephi 32 tells us that the Spirit commands us to pray, and that it is Satan who encourages us to stop praying. Why? Because when we stop praying, we lose our personal connection to personal revelation, and are then subject only to the confusing and multiple voices shouting in the world. It has overcome many saints when they have stopped doing the foundational and basic requirements to keep their testimonies shining brightly.

In Alma 22, we read of the king of the Lamanites, and the missionary Aaron preaching to him. The king desires a testimony and forgiveness, and so asks Aaron what he must do. Aaron tells him to prostrate himself and cry to the Lord for faith and forgiveness, and it would be done to him. The king humbly prostrates himself, and said, "Oh, God, Aaron said you are God, and if you are God, will you make yourself known to me. If you will, I will gladly give up all my sins to know you." At that point, the Spirit overwhelmed him, and he became a changed man.

Too many of us strive to be so independent, that we don't even want God guiding us. We are distrustful of anyone and anything. But in refusing to pray or study scripture, we are falling into Satan's trap. We are shutting ourselves out from God's presence and the hope and joy he offers us. Instead, we need to be inter-dependent with God. We need to seek him to indwell in us, and we indwell in him; developing a strong loving relationship that will guide us and strengthen us through this confusing world.

I do know that revelation occurs everyday in the LDS Church. I have seen revelation at work in my callings and my personal life. And the Holy Spirit has helped me through some very trying times in my own life. If you don't have faith in Christ right now, just start with a desire to believe, and allow that desire to work within you. Start doing the things necessary to regain a spiritual witness, nourishing that desire until the Lord flames it into fire that burns within you. It will definitely be worth the effort to do as Enos did, and pray, crying until the Lord responds. And then heeding his spiritual counsel.

[HiJolly]

(speaking of the "afternoon of the second resurrection") Most members in the church do not really understand the true implication of this phrase.

Neither Joseph Smith nor Brigham Young had much to say about the resurrection, and I think I know why.

(19 February 1853, Salt Lake Tabernacle)

I will now tell the people once for all, that no man lives, or ever did live that can teach a doctrine except he possesses the keys of it. I never professed to preach and understand the doctrine of the resurrection. Joseph Smith did not profess to teach it only so far as to say he believed in the doctrine of a literal resurrection of the body.

HiJolly

[Hemidakota]

What is missing here, is those who are called the Elect and failed to live that abiding state will be resurrected with the unjust - afternoon, which is the last resurrection:

Resurrection of the Unjust

The first resurrection, which commenced with Christ and will continue through the Millennium, includes all who are worthy of a celestial or a terrestrial glory. The second resurrection, or the resurrection of the unjust (see D&C 76:17), will first include telestial beings, those who have been "thrust down to hell" and "who shall not be redeemed from the devil until the last resurrection." (D&C 76:84-85.) Finally, rising from the grave with a resurrected body of no glory will be the sons of perdition.

Elder Bruce R. McConkie provided this commentary: "At the end of the millennium, and in the morning of this second resurrection, those shall come forth who merit telestial bodies, and they shall be rewarded accordingly. Finally, in the afternoon of the second resurrection, those who 'remain filthy still,' those who having been raised in immortality are judged and found wholly wanting, those whom we call sons of perdition, shall be cast out with Lucifer and his angels." (DNTC, 1:196-97.)

Those who come forth in the morning of the second resurrection will be redeemed to inherit a telestial glory. However, the sons of perdition—"vessels of wrath" (D&C 76:33)—"shall not be redeemed" (verse 38) and are "doomed to suffer the wrath of God, with the devil and his angels in eternity" (verse 33).

Some of these vessels of wrath will come from among those who live near the end of the Millennium. President Joseph Fielding Smith explained:

"After the thousand years Satan will be loosed again and will go forth again to deceive the nations. Because men are still mortal, Satan will go out to deceive them. Men will again deny the Lord, but in doing so they will act with their eyes open and because they love darkness rather than light, and so they become sons of perdition. Satan will gather his hosts, both those on the earth and the wicked dead who will eventually also be brought forth in the resurrection. Michael, the Prince, will gather his forces and the last great battle will be fought. Satan will be defeated with his hosts. Then will come the end. Satan and those who follow him will be banished into outer darkness." (DS, 1:87.) [Ref: Behold, I Come Quickly by Hoyt W. Brewster]

[HiJolly]

Yes, Elder McConkie always seemed to have the boldness to comment where wiser men (i.e. Brigham, Joseph) chose to remain silent.... I tend to have this problem, myself.

HiJolly

[Hemidakota]

1st Resurrection:

- Morning [Celestial]

- Evening [Terrestial]

2nd Resurrection:

- Morning [Telestial]

- Afternoon [Perdition - Elect who sin]

[Hemidakota]

Excerpts from Discourse Delivered by President Wilford Woodruff, at the Weber Stake Conference, Ogden, Monday, October 19, 1896.

After laboring in that part (Memphis, Tennessee) for a length of time, I received a letter from Joseph Smith and Oliver Cowdery, in which they requested me to stay in that country and take charge of the churches that we had built up there. The Prophet promised me many things, and said I should lose no blessings by tarrying in that country and doing as he wished me and letting the other brethren go and get their endowments. I was then at the house of Brother Abraham O. Smoot's mother. I received this about sundown. I went into a little room where there was a sofa to pray alone. I felt full of joy and rejoicing at the promise God had made to me through the Prophet. While I was upon my knees praying, my room was filled with light. I looked and a messenger stood by my side. I arose and this personage told me he had come to instruct me. He presented before me a panorama. He told me he wanted me to see with my eyes and understand with my mind what was coming to pass in the earth before the coming of the Son of Man. He commenced with what the revelations say about the sun being turned to darkness, the moon to blood, and the stars falling from heaven. Those things were all presented to me one after another, as they will be, I suppose, when they are manifest before the coming of the Son of Man. Then he showed me the resurrection of the dead—what is termed the first and second resurrections. In the first resurrection I saw no graves nor anyone raised from the grave. I saw legions of celestial beings, men and women who had received the Gospel all clothed in white robes. In the form they were presented to me, they had already been raised from the grave. After this he showed me what is termed the second resurrection. Vast fields of graves were before me, and the Spirit of God rested upon the earth like a shower of gentle rain, and when that fell upon the graves they were opened, and an immense host of human beings came forth. They were just as diversified in their dress as we are here, or as they were laid down. This personage taught me with regard to these things. Among other things he showed me, there were seven lions like burning brass placed in the heavens. I asked the messenger what they were for. He said they were representative of the different dispensations of the Gospel of Christ to men and they would all be seen in the heavens among the signs that would be shown. After this passed by me, he disappeared. Now, if I had been a painter, I could have drawn everything that I saw. It made an impression upon me that has never left me from that day to this. The next day we had a meeting in the academy. Brother Smoot and some others went with me; but I was a lost man. I hardly knew where I was, so enveloped was I in that which I had seen.

[MormonMama]

Mine doesnt have anything regarding the resurrection at all.

Mine doesn't either, though it does mention the word "eternities" a couple of times. Is this the same thing?

[Guest Username-Removed]

Mine doesn't either, though it does mention the word "eternities" a couple of times. Is this the same thing?

All that means is that the Patriarch forgot to say it. No biggie, Everyone is supposed to be blessed for the morning of the first res.

[Truegrits]

Mine very specifically mentions the Resurrection. It is also quite detailed.

I wish I had taken notes. I was in such awe, though, listening to his words, I would not have been able to write, I'm sure!

[Guest Username-Removed]

Mine very specifically mentions the Resurrection. It is also quite detailed.

I wish I had taken notes. I was in such awe, though, listening to his words, I would not have been able to write, I'm sure!

You didnt get it printed?

[Truegrits]

Yes...but it came weeks later. After getting home, I did not remember a thing he said.

And someone said they were told to take notes, that everything said was not "official" ? I thought I read that, or something like that?...maybe not.

[Guest Username-Removed]

Yes...but it came weeks later. After getting home, I did not remember a thing he said.

And someone said they were told to take notes, that everything said was not "official" ? I thought I read that, or something like that?...maybe not.

I need to be a detective ....

Ok, so you had your blessing, had it printed, but I think you are under the impression that the blessing (what was said) is different from what was printed??????

[Truegrits]

Nothing major. I "remembered" some things I thought he said, that I did not see on the written PB. But that could have just been nerves, excitement, whatever...that made me think some things were different...right?

My PB is great. It is detailed...some things are sooo on the money.

I will have to go back and see if I can find the post I am thinking of...

[Guest Username-Removed]

Ok. well when they did mine, they typed it right there in a day and sent a carbon copy off to slc. So, who knows what the process is now????

[Truegrits]

~~~Hemidakota~~~

I was told after my conversation to receive a PB and to remember to bring a pad and pen to the blessing. In a PB, there are statements made that will not be recorded and others that will be. To my surprise, that did happen. I asked the PB, why this is so and waere not recorded in the PB when I received it. He told me that it was between the Lord and you. There were questions I had in my heart but did not make it known to the Patriarch prior to the blessing. They were answered during the PB…interesting

I was not told to bring a pen...or any of that...

[Hemidakota]

All that means is that the Patriarch forgot to say it. No biggie, Everyone is supposed to be blessed for the morning of the first res.

Not always....

[Hemidakota]

~~~Hemidakota~~~

I was not told to bring a pen...or any of that...

...not even a tape recorder for babyboomers back when. However, I was told by my friend prior to what expect. What was unique back then versus how it is done now by some Patriarch, they will have an interview prior to the PB.