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stay tuned to that chapter as we see the endtime prophesy being fulfilled as we type this!

8th grade.

James 1:5 in context was speaking of those in trials..but for argument sake lets say that we did generalize that to mean in all areas..why do we need to pray over something that God has already given to us in his word? We don't need to pray whether or not to worship another God ..he has already told us not to for example. The bible also tells us to test al things..but i can't find a scriputre verse that tells us in its true context to listen to our feelings to see if it is true or not. :) I hope you know skalenfehl..i am just trying to get a good case for praying over bom alone...i'm not trying to be difficult here. All of you have brought up some interesting things.

Your heart and MY heart are wicked because this is what the bible tells us.. jeramiah 17:9 King James Bible The heart is deceitful above all things, and desperately wicked: who can know it? ps. to your last comment. I do believe in the power of the holy spirit. and that the spirit speaks to us.

hi,, i meant that the reason those people do go into debt has nothng to do with them not manging there money well..or not working their business the right way. It's the front loading of the inventory, the always staying active etc.

skalenfehl i wish I could go deeper into that with you in person..but i am going to leave it at that. The real problem with hemi answering me with if the holy ghost confirmed a no answer for you and that is okay..is because feelings are subjective...and because the heart is wicked that is not a good source...to say it felt right..or it feels good to me so then it must be true. If this is the case..then we would all have to say that many roads lead to christ..since so many people believe that their way is the right way. but that is not the answer as you know. there is only one way and that way is through Jesus alone...

i think my question got lost..so i am reposting it..does anybody other then hemi see it like this?

that would be a great thread too..oh man lots of good thoughts came out my one question.

well.there are even people out there that would say the holocaust did even exist. Idiots in my opinion...sorry...if it walks like a duck, and talks like a duck..guess what it is a duck. lol..Jesus has been a central figure throughout history...from believers to non believers.

one more thought lehi..why do we need to go outside the bible for proof of jesus anyway? 40 authors 2,000 years apart from each other and 3 different languages...all saying the same thing with consistency. Prophecies were fulfilled and over 300 of them just pertaining to christ alone. These writings were real people, real places, real wars etc...To examine the evidence of the bible alone is overwhelming.

CNN.com - Scholars: Oldest evidence of Jesus? - Oct. 21, 2002 interesting archeological evidence..Was it' jesus's brother?

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Hemi, really?!!!! I am confused. Is it your opinion that some can believe it's true confirmed by the holy spirit and others can believe it's not true confirmed by the holy spirit? God can contridict himself? Is there anybody else that thinks like this?

something did occur to me their is archelogical evidence of tombs with his family tree on them. Would that suffice?

hmm was anthing written while he was alive?? can you count the first hand accounts of people that saw him..paul etc..or i guess you still want others outside of bible...let me look. I would imagine you would find all kinds of conflicting information out there on everyone of those guys. Check witht the smithosion and their research department.

okay hemi..since you have the different answer then i have ever heard. what do you say to me if I say I prayed about that sought it all out..and the answer was that it is not true?

okay i am going to circle this thing..altough interesting topics we could go on and on about..but if lds witness comes to my door are they not going to say pray over the bom to see if it is true? if yes..and they do not know what I believe..why would they not ask me if I 1. I believe bible is true and if i say no..then then say you need to pray over bible and bom to see if its true?

you are right the catholic church did only teach in latin and try to keep God's word from the people. but those christians who did not follow man's teachings only God perserved his word through there heritage. Yes they were even killed for their faith. They still had access though to God's word.

i don't know i have to check. but i know paul was writing from prison and to all the churches ..they had his letters and so forth..so God's word was around to the churches..even after those witnesses left. God's word was still around. old and new. God has perserved his word throughout history.

when did the new testment then come to be formed?

well don't forget that we also had the old testament around. WE still had changed lives of witnesses..In today's post modern world that would not go over very welll..but in the world of modern thought..that would have been a big deal.

well. that is one to rationalize it. I personally do not fall into that catagory. I know there are others. but i understand what you are saying. :)

great question jenamarie.. well if you lived at the time of jesus..you would have personally seen his miracles...if you lived right after jesus died you may have come in contact with first hand witnesses of Jesus..like paul and peter. ARcheology is the not the only thing there is out there in objectivity.

i think i misread his post too. sorry hemi..okay i know the holy spirit is called the comforter in the bible..but if you call jesus the 2nd comforter and then was the first comforter?

hemi..this is an interesting post..totally off my original subject..but i did not know joseph was called the second comforter.