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You know I could trade you my AMD Athlon XP 2500, 9800 Radeon, 80 Gig HD with only 2 Gig dual channel ram (can't remember speed, but its four years old). Still a little overkill but less so for surfing and TV watching.
umn... no.. i have another 3 pcs faster than that already (maybe not in gfx tho) as backup servers... but thanks for the offer
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I was a gamer my whole life until i joined the church last year.. I haven't played a game since for some reason.. too busy or something.. dunno.. i guess.. well something... I was a huge PC gamer, haven't owned a console since nintendo64... some of my favorite games are Race Driver GRiD, Colin McRae DiRT, Crysis/Warhead, Far Cry 2 (and original), GTA4 (vice city, san andreas), Thief 3, Street Fighter series, NFS Most Wanted, Rainbow Six... but yeah my very expensive computer that i got a few yrs ago ([email protected], 8800gtx, 6.36TiB-raid5+931GiB-raid0[total 10hdds], 8GiB ddr800) just sits there as my tv and facebook these days.. its kinda depressing
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I think it best not to view the Church as a political party. God, Mammon and Caesar should not be mixed for the wellbeing and purity of both Caesar's institutions and God's.
I realize that there are some pretty far out political believers in the Church, but when these political quirks are brought into a discussion regarding the Church as a party, it can dilutes the mission of the Church to proclaim the Gospel to all people in the world. Church members have the freedom of choice to hold a wide variety of political views, while still opting for the same Kingdom of God.
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see i kinda agree with you.. like issues like socialised healthcare or other economic matters i feel have nothing to do with the gospel and these things i think its healthy that there are differing opinions in the church and the church not viewed as a 'political party'. But on issues strongly relating to the gospel and the strength of the church such as gay marriage and abortion, i feel it's our duty to be united on such issues, even to the point of using our unity for political strength.
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Records are still kept. See this post: http://www.lds.net/forums/general-discussion/21168-church-investigates-proxy-baptism-presidents-mother-3.html#post365039
ah ok.. so its just the details of ordinances that are private. gotcha
thanks. I am still a recent convert and have even yet to see said ordinances (except baptisms for the dead obviously), so excuse my lack of wisdom on the matter -
I don't understand the issue...
if they don't beleive it is true then all that happened is somebody got wet and said a few kind words for the deceased. If they don't believe it to be truth then what are they complaining about.
if the DO beleive it then their enternal soul was saved.
I'm reminded of
Acts 5
38 And now I say unto you, Refrain from these men, and let them alone: for if this counsel or this work be of men, it will come to nought:
39 But if it be of God, ye cannot overthrow it; lest haply ye be found even to fight against God.
Why was this made public anyways? I thought temple ordinances were meant to be sacred.
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perhaps it would be a good idea that a mod delete the majority of posts in this thread including this one... i dont think we need this unpleasantness spoiling the topic of the thread.
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wow, thankyou that's very insightful. its the 'common' word i didnt associate with unclean.
thanks for clearing that up
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Thanks a lot both of you for your help..
@Dravin.. I don't quite understand the last scripture "What God hath cleansed, that call not thou common." can you give me some insight to it?
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I met a lady just over a week ago, and I started sharing the Gospel with her. Shes such a sweet spirited caring girl and she says she is very envious that I can have such strong beliefs that affect and help me in all aspects of my life. From what we've spoken she seem very interested in learning more about the gospel, but she is very scared. She believes that she is unclean or somehow unworthy of such blessings, that if she attends church other members will see her past sins and pass judgement. Although this unworthiness she feels I'm sure stems from a traumatic event she confided in me rather than anything that she has done herself. She's very open to listen to me and I've aranged to meet up with her again tomorrow, and by chance I had already had our missionaries scheduled to come over that day, but when I mentioned this she said she would prefer it if they weren't there. I would really prefer have someone more capable than me to answer some of her worries as until my baptism in december i wasn't so diligent in my scripture study. But I feel that if she is comfortable with me perhaps after I help her overcome her biggest fears i'll be able to refer some sister missionaries in her area to teach her more.
So the help that I need to help her are some references in scripture relevant to the clensing of baptism, and how Jesus accepts everyone despite their past transgressions. So that I may go over it with her. I really want to help this girl out she is such a wonderful person and so deserving of having the spirit in her life, and I know she feels it as our discussions have left her in tears but she is still scared of what people will think of her, even though I know how people will accept her she has a hard time believing me. Also if someone has any ideas to help her being scared of being judged harshly by people that would really help her too. I have a friend who is very wise with scripture that i'm meeting up with at institute tonight who im sure will also be able to help but more input would be appreciated.
thanks. :)
EDIT: heres what i've come up with so far that i feel best relates to her.
The Acts 2
37 Now when they heard this, they were pricked in their heart, and said unto Peter and to the rest of the apostles, Men and brethren, what shall we do?
38 Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost.
Alma 7
14 Now I say unto you that ye must repent, and be born again; for the Spirit saith if ye are not born again ye cannot inherit the kingdom of heaven; therefore come and be baptized unto repentance, that ye may be washed from your sins, that ye may have faith on the Lamb of God, who taketh away the sins of the world, who is mighty to save and to cleanse from all unrighteousness.
15 Yea, I say unto you come and fear not, and lay aside every sin, which easily doth beset you, which doth bind you down to destruction, yea, come and go forth, and show unto your God that ye are willing to repent of your sins and enter into a covenant with him to keep his commandments, and witness it unto him this day by going into the waters of baptism.
16 And whosoever doeth this, and keepeth the commandments of God from thenceforth, the same will remember that I say unto him, yea, he will remember that I have said unto him, he shall have eternal life, according to the testimony of the Holy Spirit, which testifieth in me.
3 Nephi 11
37 And again I say unto you, ye must repent, and become as a little child, and be baptized in my name, or ye can in nowise receive these things.
38 And again I say unto you, ye must repent, and be baptized in my name, and become as a little child, or ye can in nowise inherit the kingdom of God.
39 Verily, verily, I say unto you, that this is my doctrine, and whoso buildeth upon this buildeth upon my rock, and the gates of hell shall not prevail against them.
3 Nephi 27
15 ....according to the power of the Father I will draw all men unto me, that they may be judged according to their works.
16 And it shall come to pass, that whoso repenteth and is baptized in my name shall be filled; and if he endureth to the end, behold, him will I hold guiltless before my Father at that day when I shall stand to judge the world.
3 Nephi 27
19 And no unclean thing can enter into his kingdom; therefore nothing entereth into his rest save it be those who have washed their garments in my blood, because of their faith, and the repentance of all their sins, and their faithfulness unto the end.
20 Now this is the commandment: Repent, all ye ends of the earth, and come unto me and be baptized in my name, that ye may be sanctified by the reception of the Holy Ghost, that ye may stand spotless before me at the last day.
D&C 39
10 But, behold, the days of thy deliverance are come, if thou wilt hearken to my voice, which saith unto thee: Arise and be baptized, and wash away your sins, calling on my name, and you shall receive my Spirit, and a blessing so great as you never have known.
Luke 7
36 And one of the Pharisees desired him that he would eat with him. And he went into the Pharisee’s house, and sat down to meat.
37 And, behold, a woman in the city, which was a sinner, when she knew that Jesus sat at meat in the Pharisee’s house, brought an alabaster box of ointment,
38 And stood at his feet behind him weeping, and began to wash his feet with tears, and did wipe them with the hairs of her head, and kissed his feet, and anointed them with the ointment.
39 Now when the Pharisee which had bidden him saw it, he spake within himself, saying, This man, if he were a prophet, would have known who and what manner of woman this is that toucheth him: for she is a sinner.
40 And Jesus answering said unto him, Simon, I have somewhat to say unto thee. And he saith, Master, say on.
41 There was a certain creditor which had two debtors: the one owed five hundred pence, and the other fifty.
42 And when they had nothing to pay, he frankly forgave them both. Tell me therefore, which of them will love him most?
43 Simon answered and said, I suppose that he, to whom he forgave most. And he said unto him, Thou hast rightly judged.
44 And he turned to the woman, and said unto Simon, Seest thou this woman? I entered into thine house, thou gavest me no water for my feet: but she hath washed my feet with tears, and wiped them with the hairs of her head.
45 Thou gavest me no kiss: but this woman since the time I came in hath not ceased to kiss my feet.
46 My head with oil thou didst not anoint: but this woman hath anointed my feet with ointment.
47 Wherefore I say unto thee, Her sins, which are many, are forgiven; for she loved much: but to whom little is forgiven, the same loveth little.
48 And he said unto her, Thy sins are forgiven.
49 And they that sat at meat with him began to say within themselves, Who is this that forgiveth sins also?
50 And he said to the woman, Thy faith hath saved thee; go in peace.
I've put in italics the parts that I'm going to explain to her further, and I'm going to search more when i get home from institute. but some help with specific scriptures where it says Jesus accepts all people would be really helpful. thanks.
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Caution: Wins arguments by blurting out inane facts until you walk away in disgust.
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i have a friend who grew up there, she says it is fantastic there and the members are great.
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oh noez... i sin most every week AT church then, what about those preparing and clearing the sacrament... that's work right... what about getting chairs down and stacking them back up for classes... oh no... forgive me!!
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Off topic:
It makes me sad watching a woman insist on playing basketball with the men. There was one girl on our stake that did this. First of all, it is unfair to the men because it goes against their nature to physically shove women. They end up playing a very controlled game giving the woman advantages. And then, if the men decide, to heck with it, she wants to play with the men, then we treat her like a man, and start shoving her and competing with her, it is really sad too. Because, like what I said above, this breaks the protective nature of men towards women that is necessary for the survival of the species.
lol, lots of girls play ball in our stake, and here i was not shoving on them/playing lighter than normal cas I thought I was worried about touching them inappropriately
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Hey, I actually saw that South Park episode long before I became LDS, and all it did was soften my heart to hear missionaries when they came a knockin'. The South Park episode portrayed Mormon family life in a positive light which is the most important thing, a mockery was made of the story of Joseph Smith, but every LDS surely can admit how unbelievable the story of Joseph Smith is. If it were not for that episode of South Park, I'm not 100% sure if I'd be a member right now. If you compare it to the Scientology episode... LOL
As for Big Love, I recently watched some of it because it was recommended by a non-member friend, and it has actually helped me come to terms with the LDS history surrounding polygamy. As this is one aspect along with racism in the Church's history that as a new member I've had a hard time accepting. I'm an adult and am easily able to see truth from fiction and neither show has had me questioning my faith in the church. I have not seen the episode(s) depicting endowments and as it is sacred I don't agree with them showing it though.
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I wouldn't say that women are any more or less emotional than men, but studies indicate that women use both sides of their brain at the same time which would indicate that they would exercise judgement more in tune with their emotional intelligence whereas men would use only their logical intelligence. Obviously this isn't the case for matters of the heart but those aren't decisions I'm talking about.
There have also been studies that show that the male brain is more equipped for spatial awareness, whereas women take note of details. A study where they ran groups of boys and girls through mazes. The groups were able to see the mazes from above at a point in the maze so they could see the entire maze. After running the mazes they came to the conclusion that in mazes with more identifiable features like fountains or benches etc etc the girls did noticibly better, but in the mazes with less identifiable features the boys did noticibly better. This is the reason for why 'in general' males are better at things that require spatial awareness such as a game of chess. There are always exceptions to any rule but in general thats the rule.
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Deadly or not its driving the price of pork down, I like pork.
I was thinking the same thing... I think I'll be having more meals with pork if this price trend continues... I love irrational fear...
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mutated animal virii are a real threat, probably not worthy of such hysteria but a threat nonetheless. I have friends who know much more on the subject than I and they assure me that we are well overdue for a serious global pandemic. I think it is advisable to avoid crowded areas and hospitals where practical, particularly if there are reported cases in your state. This swine flu apparently has a 10% mortality rate for those infected so far which is nothing to sneeze at.
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If the leaders were aware.. I have a serious problem with that. If they had no clue.. I can let it slide.
It says that LDS has a 'policy' on illegal immigrants serving missions which say they are well aware of their illegal status. Whilst I think it is a good thing for these people to serve a mission, i'm not sure it is worth comprimising some of our fundimental beliefs as per The Articles of Faith
12. We believe in being subject to kings, presidents, rulers, and magistrates, in obeying, honoring, and sustaining the law.
Not only is it compromising the beliefs of all those involved in assisting them, it compromises the image of the LDS Church.
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Well that goes well with what I'm trying to say, it is obvious that the current system is definitely not the best stewardship. Every other healthcare system from developed nations have proven definitively that a socialist system is the best usage of resources. It costs less money per person and more people are treated. This is definitely what I would see as stewardship in relation to the healthcare of the people.What it tells me is that the Lord is a capitalist - in that he wants his resources used wisely and to the best of that person's ability. That's called stewardship.
There are plenty of people that are born into lower socio-economic class who had not the opportunity to attend tertiary education and have had no chance to get a good-paying job. Instead they work to the 'best of their ability' by working two jobs and strugle to live day to day let alone earn enough to pay for their healthcare.And if that person doesn't do well according to their abilities, then they are cast out.
They may not be able to turn them away, but they are still left with a massive bill, this also leaves most illnesses left until they're an emergency when a small amount of care earlier could have prevented it.Now, if you want to talk about failings in our current system... I'll agree with you that the current system isn't the best.
One of the problems is that under current law, no hospital can turn away anyone. Now that's in and of itself isn't a problem... except for the massive amounts of illegal aliens in our country. They don't have ANY health insurance and so they have to go to the ER to get their medical care. This is clogging up our system.
the system may not be perfect, but at the end of the day it's going to cost you and everyone else less money. Plus, its a far better system than what is already in place.Now, there are two ways to handle this:
1 - create socialized medicine and get the illegals to other doctors for care (and reward criminal behavior - yes that's my bias)
You seriously think that countries like the UK, France and other european countries don't have problems with border control. In the UK some major cities indigenous white people have just statistically become a minority, with other major cities 5-10 years away from the same fate. Yet manage to have the best healthcare in the world. Borders in europe are far far more relaxed than in America, and these countries treat immigrants regardless.Let me state that all the examples you have stated are with countries that have better border enforcement than we do and they enforce the distribution of their healthcare much better that we do or would.
Healthcare provider for 'the world' is a tad dramatic, why would people from canada, uk etc etc travel to usa for treatment when they can receive it at home?Now, I've side-stepped into another issue entirely, but it must be dealt with before implementing anything on a scale as large as our country. We simply can't have an "open-border" policy and have socialized medicine. The ECONOMICS of it would be that the US becomes the health care provider for the world... and who will pay for that? U.S. TAXPAYERS (of which I am one).
BUt socialised healthcare costs LESS, not more.There isn't an endless supply of money. Just because the government can PRINT money doesn't mean that they can create WEALTH. They're just eroding the value of the current money in circulation, causing massive inflation and future tax increases to cover the money that they're printing.
I don't have solutions for your countries problems that it is facing at the moment, but there will always be a middle-class.
Anyways, I better stop now, its just hit the Sabbath in my part of the world, time I stopped talking about such worldly matters and got off the internet.
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The Ant and the Grasshopper isn't scripture. Also you're using 'scary stories' and 'emotional sidestepping' again with presenting facts.
You're talking as if only the unprepared suffer, where it is everyone that suffers. People think they are prepared, they have health insurance only for their claim to get rejected. Everyone suffers when healthcare is about money and not about healing the sick, health insurance companies protect their shareholders first and foremost, leaving the sick a cold second.There are countless legal loopholes that health insurance companies have used to deny treatment of sick patients who should be covered by their insurance. This is particularly the case with expensive and ongoing treatments such as cancer. Then insurance wont be given to people who will probably actually get sick, the list of conditions that disqualify someone for health insurance are endless, and if it is found that you had one of these conditions prior to applying for health insurance even if it is totally unrelated to your illness and you had no knowledge that you had it, your insurance will be canceled. Health insurance works on the exact same idea as social heathcare in the idea that funds are pooled by the larger community and the healthy people pay for the treatment of the ill, the only differences are that it is far more expensive and the level of corruption is far higher. This is directly observable by my previous post showing that despite the USA having the most expensive per person cost of healthcare they have the lowest level of health coverage in the world. All because of leeching and corrupt insurance companies feeding on the blood of the sick. It's not about "entitlement" its about the obvious failings of the current system.
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You're knowledge on this subject is obviously quite lacking. Do you have any idea on the quality of healthcare in developed nations outside the USA?Those that "have not" want things easier for them and want the government to step in. BUT THEY DON'T WANT QUALITY TO GO DOWN. (I'm sensing a paradox here.)
heres a quick summary from wikipedia, not the best source in the world but a good place to start.
Health care in the United States is provided by many separate legal entities. Including private and public spending, more is spent per person on health care in the United States than in any other nation in the world.[1] A study of international health care spending levels published in the health policy journal Health Affairs in the year 2000, found that while the U.S. spends more on health care than other countries in the Organisation for Economic Co-operation and Development (OECD), the use of health care services in the U.S. is below the OECD median by most measures. The authors of the study conclude that the prices paid for health care services are much higher in the U.S.[2] In 1996, 5% of the population accounted for more than half of all costs.[3][4]
Active debate over health care reform in the United States concerns questions of a right to health care, access, fairness, efficiency, cost, and quality. The World Health Organization (WHO), in 2000, ranked the U.S. health care system as the highest in cost, first in responsiveness, 37th in overall performance, and 72nd by overall level of health (among 191 member nations included in the study).[5][6] The WHO study has been criticized in a study published in Health Affairs for its methodology and lack of correlation with user satisfaction ratings.[7] A 2008 report by the Commonwealth Fund ranked the United States last in the quality of health care among the 19 compared countries.[8] However, the U.S. is a leader in medical innovation, with three times higher per-capita spending than Europe.[9] The U.S. also has higher survival rates than most other countries for certain conditions, such as some less common cancers, but has a higher infant mortality rate than all other developed countries.[10]
As a proportion of GDP, public health care spending in the United States is larger than in most other large Western countries.[11] On top of that, there is substantial expenditure paid from private insurances. According to the Institute of Medicine of the National Academy of Sciences, the United States is the "only wealthy, industrialized nation that does not ensure that all citizens have coverage" (i.e. some kind of insurance).[12][13]
Now, which of these 2 choices do you think the Gospel of Jesus Christ would have us do?
(Note: I won't answer that question as I'm sure that my opinion is obvious. But that's the question I pose to you.)
2 Tim 1:7
For God hath not given us the spirit of fear; but of power, and of love, and of a sound mind.
I know exactly what Jesus would do. Heal the sick... In fact, that is what HE ACTUALLY WENT AROUND DOING...
Matthew 8:3
And Jesus put forth his hand, and touched him, saying, I will; be thou clean. And immediately his leprosy was cleansed.
Matthew 4:23
And Jesus went about all Galilee, teaching in their synagogues, and preaching the gospel of the kingdom, and healing all manner of sickness and all manner of disease among the people.
Mark 2
3 And they come unto him, bringing one sick of the palsy, which was borne of four. 4 And when they could not come nigh unto him for the press, they uncovered the roof where he was: and when they had broken it up, they let down the bed wherein the sick of the palsy lay. 5 When Jesus saw their faith, he said unto the sick of the palsy, Son, thy sins be forgiven thee. 6 But there was certain of the scribes sitting there, and reasoning in their hearts, 7 Why doth this man thus speak blasphemies? who can forgive sins but God only? 8 And immediately when Jesus perceived in his spirit that they so reasoned within themselves, he said unto them, Why reason ye these things in your hearts? 9 Whether is it easier to say to the sick of the palsy, Thy sins be forgiven thee; or to say, Arise, and take up thy bed, and walk? 10 But that ye may know that the Son of man hath power on earth to forgive sins, (he saith to the sick of the palsy,) 11 I say unto thee, Arise, and take up thy bed, and go thy way into thine house. 12 And immediately he arose, took up the bed, and went forth before them all; insomuch that they were all amazed, and glorified God, saying, We never saw it on this fashion.
Matthew 9:25
But when the people were put forth, he went in, and took her by the hand, and the maid arose.
Matthew 9
27 And when Jesus departed thence, two blind men followed him, crying, and saying, Thou son of David, have mercy on us. 28 And when he was come into the house, the blind men came to him: and Jesus saith unto them, Believe ye that I am able to do this? They said unto him, Yea, Lord. 29 Then touched he their eyes, saying, According to your faith be it unto you.
I could keep finding quotes to support this until the second coming, whilst your quote is vague and unrelated. Jesus put a far higher emphasis on healing the sick.
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You have to remember Christ is at the head of this church, he calls the Prophet and the Prophet speaks on behalf. To remove that fact would make it confusion. Benson didn't have a split personality, he spoke of truths, truths that you and I don't know the half of, and let me tell you that I bet the Prophet of today is more aware of our government than you or I are! Socialism isn't the issue, it is the men behind it and what they want. Does Satan want to look after you? Is he in control of the government? Or is Christ? The answer is quite simple. Benson knew very well what he was talking about.....or he would have been removed from his position in an instant!
But i think it all comes down to each persons interpretation of Benson's speech, he said nothing about healthcare just 'transfer of wealth', nobody gains wealth by being treated for illness so it could easily be interpeted this way. Nor do I see it as 'forced charity' as it is a public service for all people not helping out a specific group. If Thomas Monson speaks out on the subject of socialised healthcare then I will take heed, until then I'm interpreting the speech as I interpret the standard works, as a personal message to me.
If Benson's speech was black and white on the subject, obviously I would take heed, but just as I have interpreted to suit my way of thinking, just as others have interpreted it to suit their way of thinking.
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Now, I don't want a wreck. I want PEACE OF MIND. Yes, you have paid into "the system" for your fire brigade. Don't you feel better knowing that "it's there"? That IF there's going to be a fire at your home that there's a chance that your home can be saved?
The same peace of mind I have knowing that if I get sick tomorrow I can walk into a doctors and get treated without fear that my unavoidable illness will incur a mass of debt, or that if I get a chronic illness that may last for 6 months that causes me to lose my job and leaves me with expensive medical bills that I wont lose my home because of I'm dumped with an mountain of debt I have no means to pay for?
Renting isn't like owning, increased property value is a negative thing for someone renting as it only means higher rent, so why should a renter's taxes go towards parks and open spaces which will only increase their monthly outgoings on rent with no return on that payment?Renting is just like owning... except for someone else.
Renting is A CHOICE. Most of the time the ONLY choice. Renters may pay a homeowners association dues... but they don't have to live in a home where there are HOA dues. They can live somewhere else.
Its very good that you appreciate such great people for such heroics, but it has no relevance to this argument. It's they kind of emotional sidestep politicians use to brainwash people with guilt that if you support A then you support B when in reality you do not support B.Let me get a little shameless here: How about 9/11? I'm very proud of our NYFD men in blue to help people when they need help. I don't mind paying into a system to have a band of trained hero's to be there for our society. I don't mind having my kids look up at the firetruck and be excited about people who do great things and risk their own lives to do it.
So shouldn't they be privatised so that these heroes have an oppurtunity to earn more money? Also, do you not consider a doctor to be a hero when he saves countless lives in his career?The military protects us against our enemies. The fire department helps to protect our property from the elements.
Both serve as protection for us all. I'll take it!
This point is really making your argument confusing to me, you hold firefighters and millitary in higher regard than doctors but you would prefer firefighters and millitary to earn less money in a socialist system whilst the doctors reap the benefits of working in a privatised system. From a logical perspective this really makes no sense. Your willing to pay a % of your income for firefighters and millitary but instead of paying that small % to doctors you're willing to pay double or triple when you're sick?
The stuff I don't like about socialism isn't "socialism" itself, but it's evil cousin COMMUNISM.
I don't want the government to tell me where to live, what to say, where to say it, to whom I can say it to, etc.
Thats just irrational fear, you live in a democratic country. Just because people vote for socialised healthcare doesnt mean they'll vote for a totalitarian system of government.
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school dropouts i think can be attributed to other aspects of society such as immorality, not the teachers.2. Education provided by the government has become an Elite force to be dealt with. Education is a privilege that has turned into a right because it is funded through the tax system. We get what we pay for. Here in California, we have a DISMAL educational system... but it's also the most costly. How is the quality of the teachers who are teaching our students? How many high school drop outs is the public school producing?
A product of the tax system is showing that their results are mediocre at best.
So you're saying that people that rent their home and stay indoors shouldn't have to pay those taxes?3. Parks help improve property values if they are well maintained.
I think you'll find the border-crossing trend is the exact opposite, I can't think of anyone in their right mind that would travel TO the USA for healthcare.4. When everybody gets sick, you take a number. You get to WAIT for your health care. When it's "free" you are no longer treated with urgency for your situation. This is why people from Canada who need something done fast come "south of the border" for their medical treatment. It's not about money... it's about their health.
Still, i've gone 27 years without needing to call out the fire brigade, but I've paid taxes for 11 of those years. I fail to see the benefit for ME personally.5. There are communities that have volunteer fire departments because a fire in the community can devastate the entire community quickly. Now with cities with denser populations, they need professional fire services to extinguish the flames quickly or utter disasters can occur. We need fire services as part of the tax system. They just need to be paid for FIRST in the state budget and not used as a "carrot" to get us to approve other ballot measures because "we don't have enough money for fire, police and other emergency services".
For healthcare, it's all about the DOCTORS who provide such healthcare.
If you spent the money and time to become a doctor, may I assume that you wanted to be highly specialized so you can make an above average income?
Now we have socialized medicine. You must take any patient that comes to you and you are now paid what the GOVERNMENT thinks you're worth for your services. You now have a permanent ceiling on your income.
Do you think that feeling would suck the soul out of your desire to do a great job for your patients? Wouldn't you feel that you're working for the government instead of yourself?
We will have LESS doctors and less quality of services because we won't have providers who will want to do a better job.
YET doctors will have to run their business & practice with cost-cutting measures in order to provide a maximum profit.
Where would they cut their spending? At the POINT OF SERVICE! Less patients = less liability = less waiting = shorter work days for doctors = an environment where laziness will be rewarded over building a medical practice!
Your doctors will respond to your emergency just like the DMV does to the waiting line.
I really think you need to look at the NHS in the UK, where all patients are attended to, doctors don't live in poverty still living in multimillion dollar houses driving expensive cars. They do earn a little bit less, but are acutally more satisfied with their jobs as testimonies from countless American doctors all state they feel absolutely mortified when they have to turn away a critically ill patient for reasons of insurance.
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I think Cola is in the spirit of the law, just not the letter of the law.