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A very wise man once told me, "Dont let your religion get in the way of your spirituallity" meaning... dont let what prophets or anyother human get in the way of your relationship with God. I know prophets are called of God, but a lot of what they say is their speculation. Prophets have said men will never go to the moon or the preisthood would never been extended to blacks... God has all the answers and all the mercy and all the love. The truth comes down to, he knows your heart and WANTS you to be happy... thats what the gospel is all about. Trust that he will respect what you want. You got sealed to your husband.. and thats all, no one else. It is you and him forever, thast what you choose, there was no fine print on the contract. Listen to the still small voice...

I posted this in the other thread but I hope it might help... it affected my testimony too. Why does everyone assume that 1. women are more righteous than men and 2. there are more women in general? What about men who die in wars? Those with mental disablities that never had the opportunities ( Example, Autism is much more prevelant in men)? Mortality rate is much higher in men, as well with little babies boys that were never born... Also, if a woman is more righteous and never had the chance, why would she want part of someone, and not one for her own, if she was righteous all her life, wouldnt she deserve the blessing of her own husband if that is what she choose? I am just wondering, where are all these extra women going to come from? There are not that many extra women just floating around. I think it possible that some live it, but just as the early church-- some chose to and some did not and God was not angry with those who did not. I believe He respects us as individuals with different feelings and needs, thats why we are all different. I also believe culture plays a HUGE part in this. We believe we were saved for the last days... others were put in other times for a reason. Our earthy experience is important, and we have grown acustom to many ways of life, our prophets NOW say that is BAD! NO! You will be excommunicated if you participate in something like that now. Of course it seems wrong to us. To Abraham, maybe not so much... I dont think when we die, we will forget the teachings of our prophets. I can personally say I will always remember Pres. Hinckley and his words, and thats good. Another thing that blows my mind, is why do we assume we will all be the same? Its like you look at people now that have 10 kids and you have 3, are they wrong? Is it bad? No, they choose a different number of kids than you. Or you look at the prophet, are you bad because youre not one, no, youre just different. I do not think the CK will be cookie cutter versions of everything. Diversity will be there. For all we know, maybe there is just one Heavenly Mother. I mean, time is not an issue for her, she took as loooong as she needed to have all her many little spirit kiddies. As time goes on the church progresses. Now we have more memebers, more temples, more freedom of religion than in the 1800's. We are moving forward.... I have often thought about the scripture that says the spirit is the same yesterday today and forever, polygamy did not last, just as the preisthood ban didnt. Do you think the priesthood will be taken away from blacks someday? I dont think other's will be forced to join a marriage either. I suppose I just dont understand how people can testify of what will happen in anothers personal life. Pray for yourself, your marriage, your family and let others do the same for theirs. As I said, we are different, with different circumstances and just like the early church I believe we will have a choice and we will not all choose the same thing and our loving Heavenly Father will accept that. The gospel's purpose is to provide peace and joy in this life. For me, thinking of polygamy does not, and so I have found for me, that wont be that case, otherwise the gospel would not make sense in my life. The gift of the Holy Ghost is for INDIVIDUALS and their spiritual quests, not to tell others what to do and what is right.

Why does everyone assume that 1. women are more righteous than men and 2. there are more women in general? What about men who die in wars? Those with mental disablities that never had the opportunities ( Example, Autism is much more prevelant in men)? Mortality rate is much higher in men, as well with little babies boys that were never born... Also, if a woman is more righteous and never had the chance, why would she want part of someone, and not one for her own, if she was righteous all her life, wouldnt she deserve the blessing of her own husband if that is what she choose? I am just wondering, where are all these extra women going to come from? There are not that many extra women just floating around. I think it possible that some live it, but just as the early church-- some chose to and some did not and God was not angry with those who did not. I believe He respects us as individuals with different feelings and needs, thats why we are all different. I also believe culture plays a HUGE part in this. We believe we were saved for the last days... others were put in other times for a reason. Our earthy experience is important, and we have grown acustom to many ways of life, our prophets NOW say that is BAD! NO! You will be excommunicated if you participate in something like that now. Of course it seems wrong to us. To Abraham, maybe not so much... I dont think when we die, we will forget the teachings of our prophets. I can personally say I will always remember Pres. Hinckley and his words, and thats good. Another thing that blows my mind, is why do we assume we will all be the same? Its like you look at people now that have 10 kids and you have 3, are they wrong? Is it bad? No, they choose a different number of kids than you. Or you look at the prophet, are you bad because youre not one, no, youre just different. I do not think the CK will be cookie cutter versions of everything. Diversity will be there. For all we know, maybe there is just one Heavenly Mother. I mean, time is not an issue for her, she took as loooong as she needed to have all her many little spirit kiddies. As time goes on the church progresses. Now we have more memebers, more temples, more freedom of religion than in the 1800's. We are moving forward.... I have often thought about the scripture that says the spirit is the same yesterday today and forever, polygamy did not last, just as the preisthood ban didnt. Do you think the priesthood will be taken away from blacks someday? I dont think other's will be forced to join a marriage either. I suppose I just dont understand how people can testify of what will happen in anothers personal life. Pray for yourself, your marriage, your family and let others do the same for theirs. As I said, we are different, with different circumstances and just like the early church I believe we will have a choice and we will not all choose the same thing and our loving Heavenly Father will accept that. The gospel's purpose is to provide peace and joy in this life. For me, thinking of polygamy does not, and so I have found for me, that wont be that case, otherwise the gospel would not make sense in my life. The gift of the Holy Ghost is for INDIVIDUALS and their spiritual quests, not to tell others what to do and what is right.

"What is sealed i on earth is sealed in heaven" "There will be no giving or taking of marriage after this life."

Mark, Dont hate gays! There are righteous homosexual people in the church, they are not bad! I hate it when LDS people think that, so narrow minded. Heavenly Father knew what he was doing when he made you. Dont get me wrong, I cant imagine being in your situation. Maybe your life mission isnt the typical get married have kids, but be a missionary, service... thats for you to figure out. Being gay and your salary do not define you. Not at all. Being a good person is what does, dont be tricked! Personally, I give you major props for continuing everday, that would be hard, you could be an inspiration and a source of hope to sooo many in similiar situations. tara

The tough thing about this is that porn is addictive and it can leak over to other areas of your life. One day when you get married, you really dont want that to affect your relationship. Think of your future wife, that will break her heart. But at the same time learning to overcome something gives you so much strength, and it will bless your marriage because you will learn to be strong and work with the Lord. Trust me, experience.

I find is interesting how people say, "Dont worry about it now." Come on, really? ETERNAL PERSPECTIVE MUCH? My husband always feels strongly against the polygamy in eternities deal. There may be exceptions, I think the Lord is mindful of our different cultures and times, maybe that is why we were put on the earth at the times we were. But really, do you think Heavenly Father would lead you to your spouse, learn how to live together, raise children, have grandchildren,have you spend your whole life together and then bring someone else into the picture? I dont think so. I do know an eternal principle..... AGENCY. We will ALWAYS have our agency.

Penny, I cant understand how I could relate my husband to a toy. I feel like Adam and Eve are our examples, thats why we focus on them so much. They were our first parents. If God is the same yesterday, today and tomorrow then dont you think the principles that last are what God has in plan for us? Chasitiy of women, one man and one wife. That is what has lasted not the others. I dont want to bash on you but I cannot understand how you feel the way you do, I wish I could so I wouldnt worry though:) My mom was a convert and still cannot except this principle, and she has been married for 30 years, so not it didnt fade, us young girls arent just crazy in love, we know right from wrong. Tara

Hey, You sound just like me... exactly. Im a newly wed and have been struggling with this forever, well a year feels like forever. I mean not only does it hurt me to think I may have to live it, but even if I dont, that its okay. I have talked to everyone I know and they all have different opinions but really deep down, I dont think it will be and if God really loves women as much as men it couldnt be. I really dont have much to offer except I really know how you feel, Im really struggling too. If its true, we can complain about it together in the afterlife.