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  1. Exaltation

    in LDS Gospel Discussion

    Posted

    I just don't get it. I don't get how heavenly father is a God who was once a man, who was then exalted, because that means that there must be an endless line of the same thing. Which also raises this question in my mind- Why worship this God? Why not the "original". I've asked others but nobody can give me a straight answer. This is the only things holding me back because i just don't know what to think about it

    Others have addressed your questions at face value, and I'll let them continue to do so. I'd like to challenge the bolded part. Our own experience gives us one very specific path for the way an entity can experience mortality - namely, an Exalted Man who is the Father of a spirit child clothes that child in flesh, who then proves himself worthy of godhood. Is there any other way that this can happen? We don't know, as it hasn't been revealed to us. God was once a man who laid down his body and took it up again. This doesn't necessarily mean that he needed an exalted father. It does not mean that during his lifetime there was some other higher being that he worshipped.

    You can still believe that God was once a man without having to believe in an infinite regression of gods.

    Not Taking Your Husband's Name

    in Preserving Marriage between a man and a woman

    Posted

    Thy desire shall be to thy Husband. Yes, It is quite sad. It is an obstacle to Oness between a man and his wife. We are given in the scriptures "As a man thinketh so is he in his heart" Keeping an Identity apart of that of the husband is not fulfilling what God ordained in Genesis.

    Genesis 3:16 - Unto the woman he said, I will greatly multiply thy sorrow and thy conception; in sorrow thou shalt bring forth children; and thy desire shall be to thy husband, and he shall rule over thee.

    The High divorce rate will not come down until both the man and the woman begin to live according to how GOD has ordained it from the beginning.

    LDS women and men have adopted worldly philosophies as truth that on the surface appears Good...but is evil even toxic to the marriage. Satan declared war on the marriage since the days before the flood.

    If the woman keeps and use the name of her husband she is not only declaring to all who hears and sees it that she is one with that man..but it is also re-inforcing it in her heart.

    Anything that separate and divide where oness should exist is of the devil so it is not hard to know where it comes from.

    bert10

    It is for these reasons that my wife took my surname. And my given name. I don't have a middle name or she'd now be identified by that too.

    Let's not elevate the means to the level of the ends. There is a principle of unity, but that is not exclusively symbolized in the practice of taking another's name.

  5. Nervous for baby blessing

    in Advice Board

    Posted

    You can find the official guidelines in the Church Handbook of Instruction. If you're still nervous about it, talk to your priesthood leader (he specifically has a charge to teach you how to perform the ordinances).

    I would add to the previous comments that this can be a great opportunity to enjoy the sprirt of revelation (I think there's a reason why fast Sundays are the preferred day for baby blessings). Pray and prepare for that spirit and write about the experience so you can refer to it in the future.

  6. Just Another TSA Pat Down

    in Current Events

    Posted

    Maybe because TSA is doing pat downs on 10 yo kids?

    If I genuinely thought that blowing up an airplane was a great way to get my message across, I would have no problems strapping explosives to my kid.

    Or hollowing out a wheelchair frame and placing explosives in there.

    And I'm nice.

  8. Second Disciplinary Council => Excommunication

    in Advice Board

    Posted

    Oh don't get me wrong, people do make the choice to sin now and repent later because its "easier". I think that thinking in and of itself is one of those things they'll have to repent of. So right there is one thing that makes such thinking and behavior harder instead of easier because on top of any other sins they committed they have that attitude on top of it they are going to have to repent of.

    Not only will they have to repent of that attitude (sin now, repent later), but I think that attitude is more difficult to repent of than whatever particular sin is justified by it.

  9. No more Fiji Water

    in Current Events

    Posted

    Tell that to a pregnant woman who is having an ice fetish while pregnant.

    ...

    So I took your advice, and uh, went to the grocery store ... And, um, as women walked by asked if they were impregnated... uh, cuz the interweb said I need to, um, tell you to drink the koolaid instead of ice... yeah.

    Thanks for the great week Pam :jail:

  13. Can Elder's Quorum President delegate this?

    in Priesthood Quorums and Scouting

    Posted · Edited by mordorbund

    Why wouldn't someone who is a "normal member" of the quorum be given the assignment of a district supervisor? Relief society does it all the time with their folks!

    For what it's worth, the new handbook has a clause about visiting teaching that says the reports can go to the Presidency or to assistants. No such assistants statement exists for the home teaching reports.

  15. Job openings available

    in General Discussion

    Posted

    Speaking of Ron Paul and the TSA, he has introduced a bill on this very subject. In its entirety:

    A BILL – HR 6416

    To ensure that certain Federal employees cannot hide behind immunity.

    Be it enacted by the Senate and House of Representatives of the United States of America in Congress assembled,

    SECTION 1. NO IMMUNITY FOR CERTAIN AIRPORT SCREENING METHODS.

    No law of the United States shall be construed to confer any immunity for a Federal employee or agency or any individual or entity that receives Federal funds, who subjects an individual to any physical contact (including contact with any clothing the individual is wearing), x-rays, or millimeter waves, or aids in the creation of or views a representation of any part of a individual’s body covered by clothing as a condition for such individual to be in an airport or to fly in an aircraft. The preceding sentence shall apply even if the individual or the individual’s parent, guardian, or any other individual gives consent.

    Doesn't sound like it privatizes flight security. Do you (generic you) think it should go farther? Or is it already too restrictive on the TSA?

  16. The Remarkable Birth of Planet Earth by Henry M. Morris

    in Book Club

    Posted

    I was just rereading what I wrote in this thread and saw this, This was poorly written. What I was talking about was the 1st and 2nd law of thermodynamics particularly entropy (the state of randomness and disorder). I've always wondered about this concept and evolution. I'd guess there is a good answer to it. I'd have to look into it. If anybody know please let me know. Thank you

    I'm guessing the argument is something like, "if the universe is constantly falling into a state of disorder (S < 0), then how is evolution (biologics moving into a greater state of order) even possible?" If it isn't disregard the rest of the post.

    The arguments I've heard against it is that you have to be working in a closed system. The skeptic claims the earth is a closed system, but that isn't accurate. The sun is shooting quite a bit of energy our way, and that energy is currency in the biological economy.

  17. Job openings available

    in General Discussion

    Posted

    Guys, we all grew up watching CSI, or NYPD Blues, or for Pam, Starsky and Hutch... :D

    We all kinda have an idea of how police work works. Profiling is a MAJOR part of detective work. But no - it's not just racial profiling, it is psychological profiling, cultural profiling, regional profiling etc. etc. There's a lot involved in targetting a criminal. Not just the nth person that walks through the crime scene.

    You got a wife that end up murdered... who is the first suspect? The husband. Of course. It's not an insult to husbands, it's just statistically predominant. So, they go through the husband first before they continue the investigation to other suspects.

    AND even then, police detectives are always open to people that may not fit the profile but have reasonable connection. When somebody says African American men were involved in all the bank robberies that hit town the past 6 months, they don't narrow down their suspects for the next bank robbery to black guys to the point that they do not look at the white people. They eliminate the black guy off their suspect list first then move on to the white guys then they move on down the suspect list until they end up with the 3 year old bank robber. This is the only way to work in a case with a gillion suspects and only a few detectives.

    Common sense, really.

    So is the SeaTac airport screening and profiling because TSA is actively investigating a crime? Or is this really intended as a preventative measure - on par with metal detectors in court houses?

    If the police are just driving around neighborhoods routinely I don't see race entering into it. If they turn the corner and somebody breaks into a dead run all of a sudden - that could get their attention. Or if something seems way out of place like 3 white guys suspiciously huddled together in a black neighborhood. But even in this case, it's not the whiteness that warrants further investigation, just that they're different. The same would be the case of 3 guys wearing long overcoats on a summer day.

    When you walk into a federal building you aren't patted down because you're a white male like the ones responsible for the Oklahoma City bombing. Why do we expect airports to be any different?

  19. How to Dedicate a home?

    in Advice Board

    Posted

    I remember my dad doing this for our homes growing up. The house hubby and I reside in now is not dedicated. I would assume you'd have to be an active/worthy member to have such thing done, yes?

    The handbook (linked above) specifies that you can have a home teacher or other family member do it.

  20. 10 Points off Griffindor for unnecessary nudity!

    in Current Events

    Posted

    I guess i ask does it matter if he was? does it really change the character in any important way? Does he all of a sudden become less or different?

    It doesn't change my views on Dumbledore at all. But I've never like Rowling after she outed the headmaster like that.

    She should have let him call the shots as to when he would come out to his family and friends, the wizarding community at large, and the entire muggle world. If he wanted to, he could use the debut of the 7th film to prance around on screen and announce it. Or he could have quietly lived his life without telling anyone else.

    Just up and announcing another person's private life in a Q&A is a severe breach of confidence and just not cool.

  22. Move over Benjamins!

    in Current Events

    Posted

    Besides being "collectible", the million dollar coin is being sold for more than that because the raw materials alone are worth more than the face value of the coin. Did somebody forget to think that through?

    Even though the big coin has a face value of $1 million, it won't sell for that. At current prices, the coin's 3,215 troy ounces of gold are worth well over $2 million.