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First off: I'm currently talking to missionaries about converting, pleeeeeeeeeeeeeeease stop bugging me about my status or what ever on this site -___- Anyway... I've heard stories from friends about getting married because they were contacted via mail (letters) by girls from their home stake. Let me clarify: supposedly, a girl gets information on a current missionary (out of the area) and writes him a letter. Again, I've heard of this numerous times. My question: Does the stake or ward offer mailing info on current missionaries from your area? I've seen posters in the stake building with all of the current missionaries. But do they offer information? I asked my sister who is almost a member and she got pretty defensive, not sure why. But she is a strong feminist, so she may have thought I'd use it for contacting girls that are on their missions? Which I would be? But what's wrong with that? Isn't that the point? Stated in the second paragraph? I feel dumb asking my bishop because for all I know it doesn't exist or is used for only families or something... I hope I made myself clear... Thanks...

I've stated my position multiple times. So you're basically getting upset about that stupid setting that lists my religion, just because they don't have something for my particular position. So I take it that that's just too much to handle for the people here. Thanks anyway...

...Did I not just say I was technically an "inactive" member? What difference does it make in the context anyway? Who cares if I haven't been baptized, I'm asking about other things that concern all participants. And I'm as "active" in our activities and services, if not more, than any other "member" there.

I did, several times........ I'm not really a member right now, but I plan on joining as soon as I become engaged. If that's just too complicated for you guys to understand I can stop participating here...

I was just wondering... I went to PQ and they always wanted us to ask out girls and were really hyped about that. But since I've joined YSA nobody has really gone on a date except for one of my friends but that was a secret that even I wasn't supposed to know about. Is this even allowed? Because I know at this stage they want people to be seriously looking to get married, or seriously looking into it. So I guess it would make sense if they didn't really want them to be doing that since they have a bunch of work they need to be focusing on. I just was curious... Because if I happen to see someone I'd like to get to know better I want to know if it's against the rules to ask her out or something. Kinda dumb though...

Was there a "not quite a member but will get there soon" option? If there is I'll switch it...

My parents aren't super open about me doing my own thing until I'm out of the house. And I don't plan on doing that until I get married. But I'm loving learning about the church and going to all the activities and classes.

Thanks for the feedback, I see what you mean :) By the way, as soon as I'm engaged I'm going to convert. There's no way in heck I'm not getting sealed to my eternal wife and family.

Thank you guys. It is Moroni. Was he the son of Mormon or am I totally messing it up? Also, is that all of Moroni's story? Or does the dedication part start somewhere?

I was asked this question at institute the other day. I replied "The war in heaven is exactly like the war on Earth. In fact, the war on Earth is simply a battle of the war in heaven" May sound a little convoluted, but I do not believe that physical violence was very effective when you're talking about beings who receive no pain, and do not waste. The war was also not God Vs. Satan battling it out through reading books and yelling at one another like in a court room. The war was/is us (being the Mormons) teaching and spreading the gospel to others who are otherwise uneducated about it. Our missionaries are our soldiers. The casualties are the convertees (either way you go). And the church is our motherland. We are not worriers, we are not battlers, we are saviors, or "saints". The Latter-Day Saints. And that's my stupid 18 year old outlook on that matter.

There's a part in the Book of Mormon (I think...) where it talks about that one guy who walked across North America blessing and dedicating different parts of it? Anybody know what I'm talking about? Where is it?

I'm not a "member", but I've been attending YSA lately. I've met some really awesome people. And I'm really grateful for all of them. That said, I have not gone on a date with any of the girls. Why? Well there are a few reasons here and there but the main one is that I haven't seen anyone I really like. Except for this one girl... Not sure if she's my soul mate or anything but I'd like to hang out at least. My mother actually knew her as a child when we'd go to activities, they were best friends but it's been years since they talked. The thing is, this girl is REALLY committed to the church, which I have very high regards for. Although, that means she's planning on going on a mission. She's only 18 or 19 but she's pretty set to go on one. When I'm around her she always seems like, well idk how to explain it but she "firms up" emotionally? Mentally? She doesn't speak, and doesn't make eye contact with me, and being in my position I'm not even sure if I'm allowed to talk to her because she'll be leaving soon? What do you think? She I just talk to her and see what she says even if she's uncomfortable? Or should I just let it go?

Exactly. And yeah I get that a lot from my priest quorum leader, he's kind of stunned I've shown up for every single meeting, event, clean up, and service project for three years straight. Where as most of the active kids just try to go to the fun stuff. But I get a LOT of satisfaction from being the best I can and helping as many people as possible.

Thanks for the input guys, it's always a help.

THANK YOU, you're the only ones that have mentioned to me that that was wrong. It was starting to get pretty difficult there for a second...

Firstly, please excuse me if this is in the wrong section, there were at least 3 sections that sort of applied to this... Anyway. I have a lot of non-member friends. And they INSIST that if you consider dating a girl, or thinking about a girl in general it HAS to be sexual. For example! I asked them if kissing a girl on the hand would be considered cute? The girl I was talking about happened to be in her teens while I had just turned 18. I was immediately called a "pedo" and "total pervert". Is kissing a girl on the hand really a suggestive thing? Another thing I'm asking them about is how to "flirt" since this girl I like likes to "flirt" with guys. She is a member btw. I told them I thought flirting was about making each other feel good about themselves and just kind of complementing each other in a cute way. But they insisted that flirting was just for the purpose of "getting laid", and that if she wants to flirt it's just because she wants to have intercourse. Is this true? And yet another thing I asked them is about dating in general. I said that I wanted to date to get to know girls better, find out how to treat them, how to talk to them, etc. But they yet again insisted that dating was for the sole purpose of having a one night stand. And that I'll have a hard time finding someone who doesn't want to do that "and if I do, she probably won't be a very good looking girl". Coming from an LDS point of view I find this outrageous and insulting to women and humanity in general. How could they? Or are they right? Please let me know what you think...

Just an FYI I've devoted my entire young adulthood to being as much of a gentleman as I can be without looking like I'm role-playing. I get made fun of a lot by male and female friends, but I know someday there will be a woman that finds it charming. The thing is, I ask as many girls out as I can without sounding like a something-I-can't-say-on-here. They always have one response. It's shyness, with a touch of stunnedness, and what looks like to be a slight sickliness. Of course, I'm always considerate of their feelings, but they're "too nice" to put me down, but they either don't want to or can't go out. At this point I've given up "asking girls out" because it just doesn't have the affect I wanted it to. Seems that I burden them more than charming them... This is, when I've asked out girls.

Sorry I know this thread is already 3 pages in, but it's late and I don't have time to read it :/ I was going to say that I grew up homeschooling, and was also a computer nerd. So not only did I not talk to many girls, I didn't want to. Too much money, too much time, too much energy, and doesn't even know how to troubleshoot a wireless router that is giving out a bad signal. Though one day I was hanging out with our priest quorum talking to my leader as usual and he brought up the fact that homecoming was coming up soon. I whined and complained and told him it would waste my time but he told me that he knew a girl that wanted to go, and that he would pay for everything. So, knowing I was going to be bored that weekend anyway, I decided to go and had a good time. The girl was nice, and we had fun. I can tell you from experience though it does not work just saying hi to a girl and asking her out. In a small Mormon community you can be almost 100% certain they're taken. Ask your friends, teachers, bishop, if they know of any girl that's looking to hang out. If your town has more than 5,000 people you might have a chance. Maybe it won't be the best date ever but you WILL learn from it for next time. Good luck

So I'm inactive, and being 18 I've been making some plans for college, getting married, money/job, where to go, etc. But it hit me the other day at the Manti Pageant when a friend told me that it didn't matter if I was inactive, that I should still pray about it. The weird thing is, I never even considered going on a mission. I don't mind getting sent to this or that place, learning a language, teaching, reading, studying, hiking, walking, riding, wearing suits all day, getting yelled at, etc. But my main concern is that my field I'm going into really only wants young guys, and by the time you're 25ish they expect you to be a senior engineer. And by the time you're 35 no one wants to hire you anymore, and I'm not exaggerating. So I'd have to make my own business as soon as I got back, and that would mean skipping most of college and being mostly self taught. What do YOU think? Should I go now and when I get back make my own company? Or go through college and leave on a mission when I'm a little older?