NadiaStar
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Nadia, not at all, I have expressed repeatedly that is how we express our love(tolerance). You are free to meet the commandments requirements how you see fit.
If you think about it, just read this thread, those who oppose it would get mad.
I don't think you understand how the media works. If this happened, and the media got wind of it, you would get a difference of the "Good Mormon" and the "Bad Mormons". To the gay community, I would be a Bad Mormon. LDS members who got caught up in the "I support gays" a little too much would probably agree and condemn me.
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There may be a plan in the works to have all Latter-day Saints who tolerate their gay brothers to wear rainbow ties at church one Sunday. Women would wear a bracelet or necklace. The national media would know about it and a lot of people would participate. It would be a way to show we don't hate you, you are God's Children also.
But what if I didn't want to participate? What would my rainbow-weraing fellow saints do to me? Get mad at me for not wearing a rainbow bracelet?
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So... Basically your arguments hinge on a lesser commandment superseding a higher commandment(love thy neighbor).
You said early you don't have to attend a parade to be a good Latter Day Saint, but then you condemn those of us who don't attend the parades? Which is it?
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If I say to a loved one "I love and appreciate and care for you but do not agree with some of your life choices just as you probably disagree with some of mine" and he was to say "If you love me, you would participate in this list of things with which I know you do not agree", he is clearly not accepting the love I am capable of offering.
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These days you have to be all levels of snobbery to not appreciate free money. I think the coupld would be grateful. Instead of getting cute crafts and 3 dozen crockpots, they can figure out what they need.
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pam, I will refrain from calling you hypocritical as you seem to be clear with your son on what you will and will not tolerate.
But I do not understand those who say they will support their loved ones no matter what when clearly that is not the case.
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Vort, we must be in tune to the world around us. Would anybody condone a crack smoking or cutters parade? There is not a person in their right mind who would. In the case of a gay pride parade, almost half of the United States would support such a parade. That is why it is important we show love towards them. If we want to have an influence over people, in this case gays, we need to be tolerant. Them attending the parade, is simply a much needed expression of tolerance. I think after Prop 8 we need a little balancing out.
Lots of people support the people's right to smoke crack.
As for people's sexual weirdness, that also involves consent of all partners.
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I'll throw this question out to everyone: If you say you would attend a gay pride parade to show love for a friend or family member, would you or would you not attend a polygamy parade to show love for a friend or family member?
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I'll change this to include only polygamy. That involves consent of all parties.
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I just see a lot of hypocrisy in the gay movement that way. We want to be free to love whomever we want, they say, but how dare you love an animal, want to marry more than one person, etc (note that I am not saying those are okay, just tyring to make a point). What makes the homosexuals so much superior than these others?
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At first I liked the idea, but it would be a goo idea to better define a "bully".
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It's a fine line for me, but I think I lean toward's Vort's opinion. I have a few family members, friends, and even a best friend who is homosexual. I love them very much and would never condemn them personally, but for me I'd rather stick to my values and let them have theirs. I believe I can support and love them without attending a parade.
As for what Vort is saying, if I am going to support and celebrate my friends and family no matter what their sexual interests might be, it would be hypocritical to attend a Gay Pride parade for my gay friends but not a Bestiality Pride parade for those animal-loving friends.
(is that what you're getting at, Vort?)
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I guess I have to wonder if it really is an accurate depiction of the times. IMHO, suddenly changing people's sexuality has nothing to do with "the times".
On another note, I have a co-worker who is flummoxed. She has a young grandson who is as flamboyant as can be. Yesterday, the boy's parents took him to a gay rights parade. While Co-worker insists she will love her grandson no matter what, she isn't sure his tendency for women's garments for dress-up when the boy is five is surefire evidence of his sexuality. Her daughter and son-in-law said they want him to be "comfortable" but Co-worker wonders if a gay rights parade, for a kid no one knows is gay or not, is appropriate for that age.
That is kind of interesting. It might be a pretty innocent "it's okay" move, but I'm suddenly imagining the kid 10-15 years later going to his parents "Mom... Dad... I love you so much but... I'm actually straight".
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anatess, I know what you mean. But the moderator is the one who now has the drama ball in his/her court and I think it would be best if Laura let it slide and not let it escalate.
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I researched what Eowyn said, so I guess everything is a bit better. Thanks for mentioning that.
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I actually think all of those are great ideas on courtship.
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Thing that bugs me about some of the stricter gun-control laws... there's no right way.
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I personally find the punishment here ridiculous. There are so many worse things to be punishing kids about.
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And what does the receptionist do when faced with a live person and a phone person?
Ours are excellent at juggling the phone calls and holds--from what I have seen they simply put live person in there with a quick smile and an I'll be with you in a moment.
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Thanks for all your responses.
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Took me awhile to read this whole thread...
A few points:
1. I find it interesting you are seemingly asking this same question (should I leave my wife?) over and over. It's like your looking for a certain response (and not getting it). Just how do you want us to answer?
2. If the marriage is bad, consider fixing it. If you don't want to fix it, you might as well get out and save the both of you a lot of trouble. Don't be shuffling your feet if you have no intention to work at this marriage. You seem to want to be out of this marriage without being the bad guy. That might not happen.
3. Fights happen. It's part of marriage. True, you might not always care to resolve it. You might be feeling upset, apathetic, tired, etc. All feelings fine in and of themselves. But the real question here is if you want to stay in this marriage. If you want to stay in the marriage, you find a way to make up regardless of feelings.
4. Figure out what you want here. It's been a confusing thread.
5. Maybe you should focus on exactly what makes you happy. Until you are happy all by yourself, you're going to struggle being happy with any wife.
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Got to talking about this in an office meeting this morning as we debated whether to focus on the living person present or someone who makes a phonecall. Prior to this meeting we would ignore phone calls to focus on the person at our desks, but who knows what it'll be in the future?
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Flood it with Mr. Clean with ammonia. I've done this before.
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I have a friend that was seriously interested in the Church (is now active and faithful for less shallow reasons) because of Donny Osmond!
My parents, back in the day, weren't happy when I decided to go active again. We had always technically been Mormon, still had names on the church lists, but my parents thought that was as good as it should get.
Mormons walking in Gay pride parade in SLC
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How the heck does it answer my question?