NadiaStar

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  1. Nadia, not at all, I have expressed repeatedly that is how we express our love(tolerance). You are free to meet the commandments requirements how you see fit.

    If you think about it, just read this thread, those who oppose it would get mad.

    I don't think you understand how the media works. If this happened, and the media got wind of it, you would get a difference of the "Good Mormon" and the "Bad Mormons". To the gay community, I would be a Bad Mormon. LDS members who got caught up in the "I support gays" a little too much would probably agree and condemn me.

  2. There may be a plan in the works to have all Latter-day Saints who tolerate their gay brothers to wear rainbow ties at church one Sunday. Women would wear a bracelet or necklace. The national media would know about it and a lot of people would participate. It would be a way to show we don't hate you, you are God's Children also.

    But what if I didn't want to participate? What would my rainbow-weraing fellow saints do to me? Get mad at me for not wearing a rainbow bracelet?

  3. If I say to a loved one "I love and appreciate and care for you but do not agree with some of your life choices just as you probably disagree with some of mine" and he was to say "If you love me, you would participate in this list of things with which I know you do not agree", he is clearly not accepting the love I am capable of offering.

  4. Vort, we must be in tune to the world around us. Would anybody condone a crack smoking or cutters parade? There is not a person in their right mind who would. In the case of a gay pride parade, almost half of the United States would support such a parade. That is why it is important we show love towards them. If we want to have an influence over people, in this case gays, we need to be tolerant. Them attending the parade, is simply a much needed expression of tolerance. I think after Prop 8 we need a little balancing out.

    Lots of people support the people's right to smoke crack.

    As for people's sexual weirdness, that also involves consent of all partners.

  5. It's a fine line for me, but I think I lean toward's Vort's opinion. I have a few family members, friends, and even a best friend who is homosexual. I love them very much and would never condemn them personally, but for me I'd rather stick to my values and let them have theirs. I believe I can support and love them without attending a parade.

    As for what Vort is saying, if I am going to support and celebrate my friends and family no matter what their sexual interests might be, it would be hypocritical to attend a Gay Pride parade for my gay friends but not a Bestiality Pride parade for those animal-loving friends.

    (is that what you're getting at, Vort?)

  6. I guess I have to wonder if it really is an accurate depiction of the times. IMHO, suddenly changing people's sexuality has nothing to do with "the times".

    On another note, I have a co-worker who is flummoxed. She has a young grandson who is as flamboyant as can be. Yesterday, the boy's parents took him to a gay rights parade. While Co-worker insists she will love her grandson no matter what, she isn't sure his tendency for women's garments for dress-up when the boy is five is surefire evidence of his sexuality. Her daughter and son-in-law said they want him to be "comfortable" but Co-worker wonders if a gay rights parade, for a kid no one knows is gay or not, is appropriate for that age.

    That is kind of interesting. It might be a pretty innocent "it's okay" move, but I'm suddenly imagining the kid 10-15 years later going to his parents "Mom... Dad... I love you so much but... I'm actually straight".

  7. Took me awhile to read this whole thread...

    A few points:

    1. I find it interesting you are seemingly asking this same question (should I leave my wife?) over and over. It's like your looking for a certain response (and not getting it). Just how do you want us to answer?

    2. If the marriage is bad, consider fixing it. If you don't want to fix it, you might as well get out and save the both of you a lot of trouble. Don't be shuffling your feet if you have no intention to work at this marriage. You seem to want to be out of this marriage without being the bad guy. That might not happen.

    3. Fights happen. It's part of marriage. True, you might not always care to resolve it. You might be feeling upset, apathetic, tired, etc. All feelings fine in and of themselves. But the real question here is if you want to stay in this marriage. If you want to stay in the marriage, you find a way to make up regardless of feelings.

    4. Figure out what you want here. It's been a confusing thread.

    5. Maybe you should focus on exactly what makes you happy. Until you are happy all by yourself, you're going to struggle being happy with any wife.