NadiaStar
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The article seemed to rage at Mormon culture rather than doctrines. There is this misguided idea that everything your average Mormon believes is doctrine. No prophet or scripture ever warned us not to research to my knowledge.
In that regard I can sympathize with her. It could be great if Mormon culture were more open to different ideas and those questioning their faith. But for all the Mormons who were nasty to this woman, I bet you there is AT LEAST one Mormon who would have handled it different.
We'r all just people.
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I don't really understand what you're trying to say. Today - government funded education is mandated by federal law and attendance for all children is required by law. To change it so that it won't be government funded anymore requires congressional change on the federal level. Can we have enough people write their congressmen that would result in shutting down this funding? Sure. If that happens, then the people mandated they don't need education funded by the government, which means, they'll have to go fund it themselves. It can still be required. Can they change it so education won't be required by law? Sure. Which means, people don't need to be educated by default. In either case, if people don't want government touching education, then that means they shoulder the responsibility themselves including "options" for those that couldn't afford it.
I'm simply going with the ideas of what would happen if we were to completely get rid of education.
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So clearly laws would have to be changed if public education was voted out. If people plain did not want the education system touched by the government, you would not have a voucher system and you would have kids unable to go to school. anne is right, that would probably be a bad thing. But if it did happen, we would legally have to have an option for these kids. They can't be punished for not going to school when it isn't required.
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But what if the democratic system decided they no longer wanted education to be a right? That's what I've understood from the OP.
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What's wrong with charity?
I need to add to this. I am a big fan of charity. I actually prefer it to welfare in most cases. But, as the OP said, it's probably not reliable for something so broad.
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annewandering, I really do agree with you. But you must understand this is all theoretical. If society decides "hey, we don't want public education", that is a big possibility of what will happen. If education is privatized, there will possibly be the situation where the government will not be pitching in to help people. So what is to be done with the kids?
So I take it you're against completely privatizing schools? Say that instead of yelling at me. I'm just throwing out what will probably happen. Society either contributes to education, or it doesn't. You can't privatize schools, not require taxes to contribute to the education of the have-nots, and then expect money to magically appear from nowhere.
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This is a tough call. I'm a little surprised he hasn't offered to end the relationships--why is it falling to you? It's one thing to be patient, but I don't think the Lord wants you in an abusive situation. Could you possibly be separated from him for a little while to see how things go?
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My husband has always suffered from depression. It's never been this bad, though. he is on medication.
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UPDATE:
DH and I had a heart-to-heart and made a few decisions. He told me he does feel slighted compared to the adult kids and feels all my energy is going to them. So we are going to try with a weekly date night, see where that goes.
The advice here was great. I guess I got caught up in being mommy and lost balance.
We told the adult kids we would be willing to take on the grandkids' expenses if they would look for jobs and apartments and be out in some appointed times. They aren't happy to hear that, but I am going to try to put my foot down on this. My husband says he will be firm on that if I won't.
I still feel horrible about making the kids do that, but I think it's the right thing.
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Did you actually think this through before saying it? You think its acceptable to put children of families with little money to work instead of school?
Seriously?
I agree with what you're saying. BUT if there is no money for these kids to go to school, what would be done with them? What's the alternative? I am not saying it would be good for society, but who knows? With work available to kids, at least they could learn some skills and earn money for school later down the road.
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I think Backroads is talking about a theoretical system where public schools just aren't part of the equation--not a charter/public/private/homeschooling combo. Who is to say anyone would be willing to pay taxes on education in this situation?
I am personally a fan of public schools. My youngest was in a charter school for awhile. I loved it, but he didn't and when his grades improved enough I let him switch to a regular public school.
I like the quote above how it's a parent's responsibility to take care of the education--so that seems to suggest public schools are bad.
So how much public funding would go to a non-public system? If I'm paying taxes on something, I should get a say. I can't do that with private businesses.
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They do age with you, tattoos. I have a tree on my back that is now in its autumn. They don't keep you young. I have no problem with tattoos simply, but we are counseled not to get them. I tend to prefer the ones that mean something to the individual rather than just a fun picture. Tattoos will not stop you from entering the temple or anything like that.
If I had a choice all over again, I would not have gotten mine.
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I don't see any of the quotes as declaring a couple should have kids immediately. All I took from them was that a couple should put family as a high priority and not let it be affected by more shallow goals. A couple may not need a lot in order to provide properly for a baby, but they do need something. Also, the price of education today isn't what it used to be. God and the prophets may give us wisdom, but we are not to be commanded in all things.
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Thanks.
I suppose there might be some guilt in this. A big part of me wishes my parents had let me stay with them when I was young and I do want to be a good mom. I'm afraid things will get worse if we cut off too much help. One daughter had an appartment with help from the government but as she usually stayed with us she gave it up. I'd like her to get a place again, but actually use it.
I'll talk it over with my husband and we can set some boundaries.
Backroads, I think my husband would be a little more understanding of just helping out grandkids as they are innocent in this. But by and large he says he just wants to finish raising our teenage son and be done with parenthood. I don't think he would be happy about forced parenting of the grandkids.
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I have a conflict that's impacting my marriage and I'm no longer sure what to do about it.
My husband and I have four children, three of them are adults. Two of my adult children and their families are living with us due to drug & alchohol problems. I work full-time in order to provide insurance for everyone and my two adult children do not have jobs. I know my kids are messed up, but when I was young I committed every sin in the book and I don't feel right about abandoing them. If I kick them out of the house, I don't know what will happen to them.
My husband disagrees with me. He wants them gone. All the extra grandkids and the stress are causing him depression and it's causaing conflict in our marriage.
Not sure what to do anymore.
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I suppose there is also the nature of why you are looking at it. The intent of the heart is a good indicator.
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