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as he was my hero and my fave film it has to be... "nobody puts baby in the corner"

Hello , So i still find you in the same place lol! me too, I am in exactly the same positition as you. I am annoyed with myself for not knowing/feeling where God wants me to be at, i thought my relationship with Him was pretty fine, but now it seems im on my own in making this descion. I know that not every church can be right, but i know there is a right one for me. I get so close, thinking im just going to go and make a commitment, but then somthing happens and i hold off, or i learn somthing about the church which makes me think even more!!! aaarrrrggghhh, sometimes i think im going crazy. deb

Hi, thabkyou to you all, very helpfull,and brought back some of the conversations i had with missionaries. Its hard some times to stop thinking how i have been taught and to start thinking more logical, makes sense now thanks again, deb

Hi All, Was hoping you could answer a couple of questions for me. I understand the Lds teaching of the plan of salvation (well not totally or else i wouldnt be here lol). It all makes perfect sense to me but there are a few things that i cant reconcile. If we all agreed on the plan of salvation in heaven then what part did satan play? why did he tempt Eve? Did God decide to use him anyway despite his dis-obedience or did satn just play into God's hands? Also if God came up with the plan of salvation why did He tell Adam and Eve not to touch the tree of good and evil? Was He just setting a test to see if we really wanted to go through with it? I hope im explaining myself enough? I know this is all basic doctrine for you guys and i apologise if you have gone through this lots of times , but i appreciate your time. thanks deb

Hi, Been reading with interest, and to be honest like snow there are a few things that jump out at me as not being kind or loving, fair etc in the bible. But i also know that i wasnt there some few thousand years ago so the evidence i have is a little shaky to say the least. For instance i have been taught for years that my loved ones (who are not saved) are burning in flames of fire right now. So after much studying and prayer i realise that this is not true, because that teaching directly contradicts who God is. Having said that , He does discipline His children (and who are we to aargue with His parenting skills?) Again who are we to say what happened when God did/didnt order/wish people to be killed? let me ask this does it make God automatically evil and horrible if he did want people dead. Its a bit like me saying there was once a time about 12 years ago i prayed with all my heart for God to "kill" someone, now at first glance without asking me for details or knowing the situation, you might think me a horrible and wicked person, is it my fault you dont trust me? Thats how it can be with the bible sometimes i find, some things yes stuy search and find the truth, but others we just need to trust God that He knew better than us at the time. deb

Hi, To be saved from death/sin. As a baptist i have been taught that once you realise you need a saviour to be saved from death, then you accept Jesus christ as the one who came to set us free. At this moment we are sealed with His holy spirit and we are sealed until the resurrection and jesus gives those saved eternal life. hope this helps, deb

Hi, thankyou again for all your replies, its good just to listen to your advice and stories of conversion. They help me to put things into perspective. I just have to take things slowly and wait upon the Lord until a time i think is right. your right though simon trying to determine what is from God and what is not is the hard part. Was meeting the missionaries and learning more about the Lds faith our chance/proof from God or is it like so many things in our life somthing to distract us from where God wants us to be (no offence ment to lds, i believe we all try and be where God would have us be). your right i did visit the church and i expected that to be my "lightbulb" moment when it all came together and made sense. I felt uncomfortable probably because i was on my own whilst all my other friends and family were at my home church, i also did not have the approval of my husband. So i guess all these things were playing on my mind. The service's though were great and there is lots to learn, the people too were wonderfully friendly, so please dont let that put you off. thanks again for all your help i really appreciate it.

hi, No its not demanding, do you not trust God that if your faithful to the end you will be rewarded? Tell me how do you know that your are doing what God wanst you to do? the holy spirit confirms it, you are blessed, God confirms it in some way..right? That is exactly what im asking that God would confirm to me (and to be honest im not really bothered in which way He does it) if this is where He wants me. Every one seeks confirmation from God that they are pleasing Him, you may search the bible or BoM , pray ,etc there are many ways. Again i have total faith in what im meant to have faith in..God. I do not yet have faith in the Lds church or its leaders. If God wants me to then He will show me. Just to make my point (as i dont want you telling me what i am or not asking of God) and of course just in case you dont have a dictionary To ask for urgently or peremptorily: demand an investigation into the murder; demanding that he leave immediately; demanded to speak to the manager. 2. To claim as just or due: demand repayment of a loan. 3. To ask to be informed of: I demand a reason for this interruption. 4. To require as useful, just, proper, or necessary; call for: a gem that demands a fine setting. 5. Law a. To summon to court. b. To claim formally; lay legal claim to. v.intr. To make a demand. n. 1. The act of demanding. 2. Something demanded: granted the employees' demands. 3. An urgent requirement or need: the heavy demands of her job; the emotional demands of his marriage; an increased oxygen demand. 4. The state of being sought after: in great demand as a speaker. 5. Economics a. The desire to possess a commodity or make use of a service, combined with the ability to purchase it. b. The amount of a commodity or service that people are ready to buy for a given price: Supply should rise to meet demand. 6. Computer Science A coding technique in which a command to read or write is initiated as the need for a new block of data occurs, thus eliminating the need to store data. 7. Law A formal claim. 8. Archaic An emphatic question or inquiry. Idiom: on demand 1. When presented for payment: a note payable on demand. 2. When needed or asked for: fed the baby on demand. [Middle English demanden, from Old French demander, to charge with doing, and from Medieval Latin dmandre, to demand, both from Latin, to entrust : d-, de- + mandre, to entrust; see man-2 in Indo-European roots.] de·manda·ble adj. de·mander n. Synonyms: demand, claim, exact, require These verbs mean to ask for urgently or insistently: demanding better working conditions; claiming repayment of a debt; exacted obedience from the child; tax payments required by law. Deal To give out as a share or portion; apportion.2. To distribute among several recipients. See Synonyms at distribute. 3. To sell: deal prescriptions; deal cocaine. 4. To administer; deliver: dealt him a blow to the stomach. 5. Games a. To distribute (playing cards) among players. b. To give (a specific card) to a player while so distributing. v.intr. 1. To be occupied or concerned: a book that deals with the Middle Ages. 2. To behave in a specified way toward another or others; have transactions: deal honestly with competitors. 3. To take action with respect to someone or something: The committee will deal with this complaint. See Synonyms at treat. 4. To do business; trade: dealing in diamonds. 5. Games To distribute playing cards. 6. Slang To buy and sell drugs, especially illegally. 7. Slang To cope: You've got no choicejust deal with it! n. 1. The act or a round of apportioning or distributing. 2. Games a. Distribution of playing cards. b. The cards so distributed; a hand. c. The right or turn of a player to distribute the cards. d. The playing of one hand. 3. An indefinite quantity, extent, or degree: has a great deal of experience. 4. An agreement often arranged secretly, as in business or politics. 5. a. A business transaction. b. An agreement, especially one that is mutually beneficial. See Synonyms at bargain. 6. Informal A sale favorable especially to the buyer; a bargain. 7. Informal Treatment received: a raw deal; a fair deal. [Middle English delen, from Old English dlan, to divide, share; see dail- in Indo-European roots.] thanks deb

Hi, thanks chet, i just dont want to rush into anything, i dont want it to turn into a another mistake, i dont want to bring my children along get them settled in just to drag them back out if its not where im meant to be. I want to be 100% certain myself that this is what i want to do before i get anyone else involved into my way of thinking. I guess i should just keep reading and praying and your right im sure there will come a time when i will have to make the descion, i just dont think im ready for that yet. Hey simon i dont mind at all, i think you right we are both in the same boat! If you figure this out let me know, although i have a feeling its all going to come down to us jumping in feet first and trusting God. I will let you know when im ready lol! Ryanmercer as i have said before i am not demading anything from God, i have already been a christian for 16 years, i am more than ready to take the next step in my faith whatever and where ever that may be. Some people when they want somthing bad enough jump in and the confirmation comes later, and although sometimes i wish i was a bit like that i'm not. I have a husband and 4 children to consider. So i will continue prayfully seeking out God's will for my life and that of my family, and when or if im sure then i will make my move. I truly believe my heavenly father loves me and has guided me all through my life (even though there have been times i havnt listened). I dont think He will let me down now, its just that things happen in His time and not ours. I think im far too impatient. God probably knows im not ready and is waiting for the perfect time, or His answer to my prayer could be no this is not the church /denomination for me. I think i have come full circle and have answered my own question ! Thankyou very much for all your help and advice, its nice to know i can come here and talk to you guys. deb

Hi, Thanks Simon, its nice to know that im not the only one. I am in cannock in the midlands. As for the other posts i do agree, i am not meaning to test God i just want to make sure im doing His will rather than going off and doing what i want, ive been a little bit of a church hopper the past 2 years, and to be honest im not sure if thats because i havnt yet found the church that God wants me to be in or because im looking for somtying that doesnt exist. If i had my own way and cared about no-one else i guess i would be down at my local Lds church on sunday and just keep going til i fet it was right (or wrong) for me. However this is a very big step for me to make, due to the fact i have been a baptist for 16 years, that my husband does not agree, annd that the pastor of my current church happens to be my father- in- law. I think it would seem selfish and hasty to just go off and "see what happens" although i know that if this is the church God wants me at things will work out. If this is where God wants me then i just want to make sure before i cause upset in my family and make a stand for a church that im not sure of. I hope this explains my situation a little better, im not trying to be demanding, i just dont want to flit from church to church any more, and the next time i want to make such a big step i want to make sure that its the right one. deb

Hi, I am in the u.k, there is a lds church in the next town a bit too far to walk and i dont drive. The only friends i have are baptist christians and do not understand at all. The missioanries told me before to step out in faith and God will give His answer, but i have so much to lose. I guess im being selfish and should do what i think is right, it would just be nice to know that what im doing has GOd's seal of approval then it wouldnt hurt so much what people say. deb

Hi, Thankyou for all your replies, they mean so much, sometimes i just feel alone. I have no lds friends and people think im silly for wanting to know more about you guys. I have tried to tell myself that it doesnt matter what church your in God knows your heart but i just feel a pull toward your teachings. Maybe your right and things might not work out the way i want them to as God knows better than me, im just tired of going round in circles and want to know what i should be doing, i fell like im wandering around with no (church) home. thankyou again i really appreciate, you replies, back to the bedtime reading! deb

Hi All, For those who want to searc my few posts on here you will see that i have been baptist for 16 years of my life, the past 2 years i have been searching, questioning doctrines i have been taught etc etc. I have visited a few different churches, including pentecostal, catholic, methodist. I have studied with Jehovahs wittness'. I also studied with lds missionaries for about 6 months. I loved the study and most of it made sense to me, there were a few issue's i struggled with, but i decided to visit the church. This was when i decided becoming a lds was not for me, i just didnt feel comfortable in the service, wasnt what i was used to . I also so suffered big opposition from my family and friends and didnt know enough to defend my new church, so i decided it would be easier to stay in the "family" church. This all happened last year. So i didnt study it or read my Bom any more and concentrated on my bible. But i cant seem to leave the Lds faith alone, i secretly read my Bom at night, i am always on these types of forums reading and learning. Im so confused. There are things i dont agree or understand in your faith yet i seem to be hooked, yet to join your church doesnt exactly thrill me either (sorry i dont mean to be disrespectful, the people were lovley i just felt so alone). So back on topic i prayed to God and because i have just moved house, i said "If Lds missionaries visit my neigbourhood this week , then i will take this as a sign from you that tis is the church you want me to be in". Do you think thats fair? Or am i losing my mind, any way its friday tomorrow so not long left. any advice you can give will be appreciated. deb

Hi, so my beautiful baby boy was born on the 19th of dec at 5.21pm after being induced. he weighed in at 5lbs 5 oz and his name is c-jay daniel, good luck to all those mommies in waiting! hope you all have a happy new year! deb x

Hi all, just wanted to let you know that i am going into hospital tomorrow to be induced (small baby) never thought you could be so nervous and excited all at the same time! deb.