Francine

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  1. There is a line of men who have been taught to listen to the voice of the LORD, the bible calls them sons of God. You say they are all descendants of Adam and Eve, and that is your belief. How you accord that belief with evidence that the human race is millions of years old (rather than 6,000 years) is up to you. If you take that approach, then all men were taught to listen to the voice of the LORD by Adam, but some fell away, which prefigures the apostasy. Where in scripture does God go through the trouble of setting up a negative outcome as a type-antitype pair? In my belief, God called out from the multitude of men one single family of men (the line of Adam-Seth-Enoch-Noah etc) and taught them to listen to his word. This prefigures the calling of Abraham, of Moses, the priesthood of Aaron, of all the prophets, and of the Church in general. This belief allows for evolution and an old earth, but it also explains where Cain got his wife, and how he built a whole city in only a few generations...not all the citizens were from his loins.
  2. Catholics are very different from Mormons. They believe the one God is three Persons, and that only this Holy Trinity existed from eternity, not a progression of gods. They do not believe in the pre-existence of souls. They believe that eternal separation from God is the consequence of dying without sanctifying grace. They do not believe men become gods. They do not believe marriage survives death. They believe the bible canon was defined infallibly in 1546 and cannot be altered. They believe the "Great Apostasy" is the Protestant Reformation. They believe that the priesthood is sacrificial in nature, not simply a hierarchy of different levels of authority. They believe the sacrament of baptism does not require a priest to make it efficacious unto salvation.
  3. How did Cain deny God, if he felt so strongly about his grain offering that he killed Abel when God denied Cain? A denial of God would have entailed indifference about the offering, not a passion to please God.
  4. Christianity is monotheistic. There are no "lesser gods" in Christianity, not even Satan. If they were fallen angels they would not have been called Sons of God. If they were unfallen angels they would not have slept with women.
  5. That's not racism, that's ethnocentrism. The Jews and Palestinians are almost totally identical by race, especially in the 1st Century before the post-Roman Diaspora. Perhaps Christ wanted to maintain control of his message while he lived by keeping all his apostles nearby. Because after the resurrection Christ did tell his disciples to teach all nations.
  6. That's unfortunate, because one hallmark of Protestantism is the primacy of Scripture, and even a quick glance at Scripture reveals that all of the descendants of Cain were destroyed by the Flood.
  7. Hillary likes to put, in essence, "Presidential Mother" on her resume, but just being married to a powerful man doesn't make you equally as powerful.
  8. There were the sons of God (Gen. 6:4) , who were in the line of Adam, and there where the daughters of men who were your pre-existing "modern men", and by the time of Noah, nearly all of the sons of God had amalgamated themselves with the daughters of men.
  9. I do not come to the Sacred Scriptures with an agenda of God's sovereignty or one of absolute human freedom. If I find what appears to be contradictory statements in the bible I try to reconcile them, but it is important to look at everything and let God's word set the agenda.
  10. Fred Phelps better live to be at least 98, or I'll take his early death as proof that God hates people who hates homosexuals.
  11. I was told in no uncertain terms to keep my questions about what Mormons believe confined only to things which are given in what they called the Standard Works. This is rather difficult for me, because I only have access to the KJV and the BoM.
  12. I cannot comment on the doctrine of a heavenly mother, because I have been firmly chastised by LDS on another forum for assuming that things are LDS doctrines which do not appear in the KJV, the BoM, the D&C, or the PoGP.
  13. I don't like it, but there is scripture to that effect. Romans 9:[20] Nay but, O man, who art thou that repliest against God? Shall the thing formed say to him that formed it, Why hast thou made me thus? [21] Hath not the potter power over the clay, of the same lump to make one vessel unto honour, and another unto dishonour? [22] What if God, willing to shew his wrath, and to make his power known, endured with much longsuffering the vessels of wrath fitted to destruction
  14. It's hard to imagine we are the same species with angels, when angels do not get married. Mark.12:[25] For when they shall rise from the dead, they neither marry, nor are given in marriage; but are as the angels which are in heaven.
  15. By dying in the murderer Barabbas’ stead, Jesus teaches us that even people who do us evil have a claim on our love.