Birth Control

[broadway]

My spouse and I were discussing birth control methods with the church in mind. We tried a search on lds.org to find the church's view of it. We were not able to find anything. I then decided to try to find that old birth control thread but couldn't.

Please help me with this search. I would appreciate those responses that have links to the LDS church's official stand on this. If you must give opinion, then state it as that.

thanks a bunch

broadway

[7layerdip]

This is the official position of the church on the issue of birth control.

Birth Control

It is the privilege of married couples who are able to bear children to provide mortal bodies for the spirit children of God, whom they are then responsible to nurture and rear. The decision as to how many children to have and when to have them is extremely intimate and private and should be left between the couple and the Lord. Church members should not judge one another in this matter.

Married couples also should understand that sexual relations within marriage are divinely approved not only for the purpose of procreation, but also as a means of expressing love and strengthening emotional and spiritual bonds between husband and wife.

[broadway]

Originally posted by 7layerdip@Jul 13 2004, 01:42 PM

This is the official position of the church on the issue of birth control.

Birth Control

It is the privilege of married couples who are able to bear children to provide mortal bodies for the spirit children of God, whom they are then responsible to nurture and rear. The decision as to how many children to have and when to have them is extremely intimate and private and should be left between the couple and the Lord. Church members should not judge one another in this matter.

Married couples also should understand that sexual relations within marriage are divinely approved not only for the purpose of procreation, but also as a means of expressing love and strengthening emotional and spiritual bonds between husband and wife.

yes, I saw that. But it doesn't give any sort of instruction at all. It only says that married couples are privileged to have the responsibilty to have children if they are physically able to, and that it is up to the couple to decide when and how many...What would you say that means??

I have heard both stands onit. I guess the answer really is to go to our bishop about it, prayerfully.

broadway

[7layerdip]

Originally posted by broadway@Jul 13 2004, 01:54 PM

It means that it is your decision as to what to do. If you want birth control, then use it. You are capable of making your own decisions.

[Faerie]

exactly....and the bishop will tell you the exact same thing "this is between you guys and the Lord..i'm not one to tell you when and how many"

*edited to say*

we are not catholics..."birth control" is not considered an abomination...i certainly plan on going on it after this baby comes...course i HAVE to due to medican reasons, but even if that weren't an issue i would...we were prompted when to try and have this child, and i fully believe we'll be prompted when to have another...

[porterrockwell]

That and "birth control"(pills anyway) is also used in other medical "cocktails" to help with female disorders and conditions. I do not believe that the Lord would inspire such a thing if it were not meant to help those in need.

The beauty of the original situation proposed in this thread, is that fasting, pondering, and prayer when used in accordance with righteous, honest desires will provide you with the answers needed.

[7layerdip]

Originally posted by porterrockwell@Jul 13 2004, 10:03 PM

The beauty of the original situation proposed in this thread, is that fasting, pondering, and prayer when used in accordance with righteous, honest desires will provide you with the answers needed.

Yea, or you can just figure it out for yourself. I hear that works sometimes too.

[Jenifer]

Originally posted by 7layerdip+Jul 13 2004, 10:20 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (7layerdip @ Jul 13 2004, 10:20 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin--porterrockwell@Jul 13 2004, 10:03 PM

The beauty of the original situation proposed in this thread, is that fasting, pondering, and prayer when used in accordance with righteous, honest desires will provide you with the answers needed.

Yea, or you can just figure it out for yourself. I hear that works sometimes too.

Ahem. Figuring it out for yourself? Bad. You might make the wrong decision. It's much better to let others make the decision for you.

btw...your avatar is making me hungry. Grrrr.

[shanstress70]

Originally posted by porterrockwell@Jul 13 2004, 11:03 PM

I do not believe that the Lord would inspire such a thing if it were not meant to help those in need.

I'm all for birth control, and I agree with the others - that it should be a decision you make with your husband, and the Lord if you'd like.

But, I'm just curious what you mean by this statement. How do you know the Lord inspired birth control? Did he inspire crack too? Don't mean to sound ugly, but it just doesn't make sense to me. Maybe I'm misunderstanding what you're saying. :)

[Guest lt]

Shanstress

I would think its a blessing just because it keeps the option open to have more kids for those who are in a bad marriage getting out, or for those who shouldnt get pregnant due to health risks. It allows other options rather than getting your tubes burned or tied............

That would be a blessing.........years ago woman did not have such options as today....My best friend was married to a man who beat her up on a regular basis, thank god she took BC or he would have beat the poor child to...She got out of that relationship and is married to a very loving man, and cannot wait to have children...What a BLESSING........a blessing in deed.

[porterrockwell]

Unfortunately some have misconstrued what I meant. Obviously you need to make the decision. But in the case that one is searching for help in the decision, that is what the Lord is kinda for.

All truth comes from the Lord. the "crack" statement was very sophmoric so I won't respond.

Let me just say this, I am one who uses medication. Previous to my 18th birthday I viewed medication as something that was a crutch, something only for weak people. My bishop made a very good point, that I now think about. My infirmities exist as a part of mortal tabernacle, everyone has struggles in their lives. The Lord inspired men in every avenue of relief or supression of our infirmities.

My bishop mearly stated that medication isn't a crutch, someone was inspired so that myself and others would have the opportunity to deal with our infirmities. I personally have depression issues and chronic anxiety, and I can tell you that it is a blessing that we have the pharmacuticals(not spelled right) to balance the chemicals that may deficient or non-existant, or misdirected. That is all I was saying.

Also, my sister has PCOS, and part of the "cocktail" she takes includes birth control, so it has much more use than that of actual birth control. Man will never know anything before the Lord God Almighty.

[7layerdip]

Originally posted by porterrockwell@Jul 14 2004, 10:09 PM

Man will never know anything before the Lord God Almighty.

God invented arsenic too. And "nuke-u-ler" bombs. Scientists and chemists didn't come up with those things. God invented them first.

[porterrockwell]

First off that is petty reasoning, all men are given gifts, it is their agency to choose how they use and develop those talents. Those things of evil in this world are co-produced by Satan. However, things of truth and light are from God. I cannot believe we have so many "interesting" views/reasoning...I expected things to be a little more "scholarly".

Hey Snow a little help here, I don't know if you have read "Gospel Doctrine" by Joseph F. Smith(great book, I am loving it) but it speaks a lot about things of inspiration and of light and...well anyway, I need to figure a way to dumb it down, course, it was said the Lord would confound the foolishness of the world through simple things.

[7layerdip]

Originally posted by porterrockwell@Jul 14 2004, 10:40 PM

First off that is petty reasoning, all men are given gifts, it is their agency to choose how they use and develop those talents.  Those things of evil in this world are co-produced by Satan.  However, things of truth and light are from God.  I cannot believe we have so many "interesting" views/reasoning...I expected things to be a little more "scholarly".

Or maybe people just invent things, and people like you blame either god or satan, depending on your particular bias.

Could it be?

[Guest bizabra]

Originally posted by broadway+Jul 13 2004, 12:54 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (broadway @ Jul 13 2004, 12:54 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin--7layerdip@Jul 13 2004, 01:42 PM

This is the official position of the church on the issue of birth control.

Birth Control

It is the privilege of married couples who are able to bear children to provide mortal bodies for the spirit children of God, whom they are then responsible to nurture and rear. The decision as to how many children to have and when to have them is extremely intimate and private and should be left between the couple and the Lord. Church members should not judge one another in this matter.

Married couples also should understand that sexual relations within marriage are divinely approved not only for the purpose of procreation, but also as a means of expressing love and strengthening emotional and spiritual bonds between husband and wife.

yes, I saw that. But it doesn't give any sort of instruction at all. It only says that married couples are privileged to have the responsibilty to have children if they are physically able to, and that it is up to the couple to decide when and how many...What would you say that means??

I have heard both stands onit. I guess the answer really is to go to our bishop about it, prayerfully.

broadway

Use whatever form of birth control you are both comfortable with.

Have the number of children you wish, when you want them.

It's as simple as that. YOU get to CHOOSE your method.

I think you are capable of figuring this one out on your own, eh?

[Guest bizabra]

Originally posted by porterrockwell@Jul 14 2004, 09:09 PM

Unfortunately some have misconstrued what I meant. Obviously you need to make the decision. But in the case that one is searching for help in the decision, that is what the Lord is kinda for.

All truth comes from the Lord. the "crack" statement was very sophmoric so I won't respond.

Let me just say this, I am one who uses medication. Previous to my 18th birthday I viewed medication as something that was a crutch, something only for weak people. My bishop made a very good point, that I now think about. My infirmities exist as a part of mortal tabernacle, everyone has struggles in their lives. The Lord inspired men in every avenue of relief or supression of our infirmities.

My bishop mearly stated that medication isn't a crutch, someone was inspired so that myself and others would have the opportunity to deal with our infirmities. I personally have depression issues and chronic anxiety, and I can tell you that it is a blessing that we have the pharmacuticals(not spelled right) to balance the chemicals that may deficient or non-existant, or misdirected. That is all I was saying.

Also, my sister has PCOS, and part of the "cocktail" she takes includes birth control, so it has much more use than that of actual birth control. Man will never know anything before the Lord God Almighty.

So, do you support the use of stem cells for therapeutic research and treatment of diseases?

[7layerdip]

Originally posted by bizabra@Jul 14 2004, 11:38 PM

So, do you support the use of stem cells for therapeutic research and treatment of diseases?

God made stem cells so that scientists could study them and cure diseases that god gave to people.

[7layerdip]

Or maybe Satan invented stem cells so that the humans could cure diseases that god gave to them.

You know that Satan. He just wants to help out the humans, but god doesn't like that kind of hanky panky.

[Guest bizabra]

Originally posted by 7layerdip+Jul 14 2004, 10:42 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (7layerdip @ Jul 14 2004, 10:42 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin--bizabra@Jul 14 2004, 11:38 PM

So, do you support the use of stem cells for therapeutic research and treatment of diseases?

God made stem cells so that scientists could study them and cure diseases that god gave to people.

There is no god, so he/it has nothing to do with it! heh heh

HUMANS, all on our own (silly little primates that we are) figured out how to use stem cells! Amazingly enough!

I think it's pretty cool to be a homo sapien in the 21st century.

[7layerdip]

Originally posted by bizabra+Jul 14 2004, 11:54 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (bizabra @ Jul 14 2004, 11:54 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>

Originally posted by -7layerdip@Jul 14 2004, 10:42 PM

<!--QuoteBegin--bizabra@Jul 14 2004, 11:38 PM

So, do you support the use of stem cells for therapeutic research and treatment of diseases?

God made stem cells so that scientists could study them and cure diseases that god gave to people.

There is no god, so he/it has nothing to do with it! heh heh

HUMANS, all on our own (silly little primates that we are) figured out how to use stem cells! Amazingly enough!

I think it's pretty cool to be a homo sapien in the 21st century.

No, no, no. Science, technology, learning, and intelligence had nothing to do with it. It was god. He puts stuff there for us to find. Just like the Easter Bunny (which is real).

[Faerie]

7layerdip: childish attempts at humor do not become you...

I have PCOS...my midwife has already said I'm on the pill the day this baby is born...weeeeee

[porterrockwell]

Originally posted by bizabra+Jul 14 2004, 11:38 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (bizabra @ Jul 14 2004, 11:38 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin--porterrockwell@Jul 14 2004, 09:09 PM

Unfortunately some have misconstrued what I meant.  Obviously you need to make the decision.  But in the case that one is searching for help in the decision, that is what the Lord is kinda for.

All truth comes from the Lord.  the "crack" statement was very sophmoric so I won't respond. 

Let me just say this, I am one who uses medication.  Previous to my 18th birthday I viewed medication as something that was a crutch, something only for weak people.  My bishop made a very good point, that I now think about.  My infirmities exist as a part of mortal tabernacle, everyone has struggles in their lives.  The Lord inspired men in every avenue of relief or supression of our infirmities. 

My bishop mearly stated that medication isn't a crutch, someone was inspired so that myself and others would have the opportunity to deal with our infirmities.  I personally have depression issues and chronic anxiety, and I can tell you that it is a blessing that we have the pharmacuticals(not spelled right) to balance the chemicals that may deficient or non-existant, or misdirected. That is all I was saying.

Also, my sister has PCOS, and part of the "cocktail" she takes includes birth control, so it has much more use than that of actual birth control.  Man will never know anything before the Lord God Almighty.

So, do you support the use of stem cells for therapeutic research and treatment of diseases?

If I were to follow your sentiment or 7's antics I would make some irrelevant, smart alec remark. Instead, I will say this, I have been praying and pondering that one for a little bit. I have not yet come to an answer, but I am also very patient. I want my beliefs and principles for the way I walk my life to be in line with the Lord's. You can mock that and disregard that if you wish, like you and a few others have done already, but life itself is not just some big bang, or darwinistic intrigue.

"Created and Inspired by the Eternal Father to carry on the work that will one day bring the righteous and lowly of heart to sit at the right hand of his thrown as joint-heirs in Christ"