Will there be polyandry in heaven? (1 woman, x husbands where x > 1)


Recommended Posts

Posted

From what I can find online, D&C 107 was a series of four or five revelations that were compiled in March of 1835.

Elsewhere in this thread someone has mentioned the date of 1838 in association with this section.

So, yeah. I guess what I'm looking for is a complete edit-history of D&C 107, as well as an explanation of the nature of those edits. And yes; I'm particularly interested in the changes you mention.

From what I understand about how God speaks through a prophet, and I could well be full of um uh, not that reliable info, Most of what I know is buried under al few years but as I remember God would give him ideas and allow him to express those ideas as they were needed in his situation.

I assume that all prophets had much the same situations. Jeremiah had similar experiences even to the losing of Scripture and having to replace it and it not matching what he wrote before. I wish I could remember the exact verses inferring this situation.

Ya know, no prophet ever says "Hay, I am going to write some inspired Scripture here. Here I go, writing more bible. . ."

No it don't work that way.

God gives the one He has called ides,

Some end up canonized in the end as Scripture, the rest end up as musings you might say.

Paul, Peter and the rest wrote many things but God only seen fit for a very few to end up as canonized Scripture.

Even with Jeremiah as I pointed out in that one instance. God only wanted one set of writings to survive and He seen to it.

Not sure where I was going there.

It may come to me after I go off line:p

Most likely in the middle of the night:confused:

Well, any way Joseph Smith went back over most all of his revelations for the 1844 edition making many adjustments to them. I think:eek:

I never have but compare the 1844 edition with earlier versions. I believe that is where the split is and it is more consistent after that.

I know the most radical adjustment to the format was the 1876 edition with Chapter, verses and double column pages.

Bro. Rudick

  • Replies 154
  • Created
  • Last Reply

Top Posters In This Topic

Posted

Here is the background that gave us D&C 107...

Background

In the spring and early summer of 1834, the armed party of Latter-day Saints from Ohio and elsewhere in the East, known as Zion's Camp, made its nine-hundred-mile march to western Missouri under the leadership of the Prophet Joseph Smith in an attempt to restore the Missouri Saints to their homes in Jackson County.1 When the governor of Missouri declined to support their efforts with state militia and, therefore, with legal standing under Missouri law forcibly to reclaim Mormon property from the mobs, it became necessary "that mine elders should wait for a little season for the redemption of Zion" (D&C 105:9). Zion's Camp was formally dissolved on 3 July 1834.2

After returning to Kirtland in August 1834, Joseph Smith labored on the Kirtland Temple, filled a mission to Michigan, prepared the 1835 edition of the Doctrine and Covenants, organized the School of the Elders in Kirtland, and otherwise prepared the Church and its leaders for the endowment of the Kirtland Temple.3 In a Kirtland High Council meeting on 18 January 1835, Joseph announced that the time had come to choose the Twelve Apostles as directed in Doctrine and Covenants 18:27, 37, and on February 8, Joseph instructed Brigham and Joseph Young to call a conference the following Saturday, 14 February 1835, of all the participants of Zion's Camp who lived close enough to Kirtland to attend. At that conference, Joseph announced that the purpose of the meeting was to select twelve Apostles from the brethren who had been part of Zion's Camp. The conference sustained this proposal, and the meeting was adjourned for one hour and then reconvened, perhaps to allow the participants to gather their thoughts and prepare themselves. The First Presidency then laid hands on the Three Witnesses of the Book of Mormon—Oliver Cowdery, David Whitmer, and Martin Harris—blessing and empowering them to select the Twelve. The first members of the Quorum of the Twelve in this dispensation were Thomas B. Marsh, David W. Patten, Brigham Young, Heber C. Kimball, Orson Hyde, William E. McLellin, Parley P. Pratt, Luke S. Johnson, William Smith, Orson Pratt, John F. Boynton, and Lyman E. Johnson.4 They were placed in the Quorum in order of seniority according to age.

On 28 February 1835, two weeks after the selection of the Twelve, Joseph Smith called the First Quorum of the Seventies with their seven presidents.5 These were also chosen from among those who had participated in Zion's Camp. According to one of those selected, Joseph Young, Joseph Smith later said to the elders in Kirtland concerning the purpose of Zion's Camp, "Brethren, some of you are angry with me, because you did not fight in Missouri; but let me tell you, God did not want you to fight. He could not organize His kingdom with twelve men to open the Gospel door to the nations of the earth, and with seventy men under their direction to follow in their tracks, unless He took them from a body of men who had offered their lives, and who had made as great a sacrifice as did Abraham. Now the Lord has got His Twelve and His Seventy, and there will be other quorums of Seventies called, who will make the sacrifice, and those who have not made their sacrifices and their offerings now, will make them hereafter."6 Zion's Camp had not been about war at all (D&C 105:37–40). It had been about sacrifice, so that the highest quorums of the Church might be organized with men who had put all things in the Lord's hands.

Members of the Quorum of the Twelve met periodically with the Prophet until 12 March 1835, when it was decided that the Twelve should take a mission through the eastern states to the Atlantic Ocean. In preparation for this mission, they met again on March 28, and, after confessing their sins, they asked the Prophet to seek a revelation for them from the Lord: "The time when we are about to separate is near; and when we shall meet again, God only knows; we therefore feel to ask of him whom we have acknowledged to be our Prophet and Seer, that he inquire of God for us, and obtain a [written] revelation, (if consistent) that we may look upon it when we are separated, that our hearts may be comforted. Our worthiness has not inspired us to make this request, but our unworthiness. We have unitedly asked God, our heavenly Father to grant unto us through His Seer, a revelation of His mind and will concerning our duty the coming season, even a great revelation, that will enlarge our hearts, comfort us in adversity, and brighten our hopes amidst the powers of darkness."7

In compliance with this unanimous request of the Twelve Apostles, Joseph Smith inquired of the Lord and received by revelation Doctrine and Covenants 107:1–58. Verses 53 to 55 of Doctrine and Covenants 107 had previously been revealed to the Prophet on 18 December 1833 in a blessing given to his parents following the ordination of Joseph Smith Sr. to the office of patriarch.8 Verses 59–100 of Doctrine and Covenants 107 had also been received by the Prophet in a prior revelation dated November 1831 and were first added to Doctrine and Covenants 107 in the 1835 edition.9 These verses are very similar to Doctrine and Covenants 68:13–35, which was also received in Ohio in November 1831.10 Verses 61b, 69b–70, 73, 76–77, 88, and 93–98 were added by the Prophet Joseph to Doctrine and Covenants 107 between 28 March and 17 April 1835; they too appeared in the 1835 edition of the Doctrine and Covenants.11

Notes

1. See Background to D&C 103; 105.

2. Smith, History of the Church, 2:123.

3. See Commentary on D&C 108:4.

4. Smith, History of the Church, 2:180–200.

5. See Background to D&C 108.

6. Smith, History of the Church, 2:182.

7. Smith, History of the Church, 2:209–10.

8. Smith, Teachings of the Prophet Joseph Smith, 38–40.

9. Kirtland Revelation Book, 84–86; see also Cannon and Cook, Far West Record, 51, 57.

10. See Background to D&C 68.

11. See Woodford, "Historical Development," 2:1398–403.

Reference: "A Commentary on the Doctrine and Covenants", Volume 4 by H. Dean Garrett Stephen E. Robinson

Posted

God gave to Joseph Smith line upon line, precept upon precept. Often, Joseph would receive a revelation, only to later be given more details. Rather than have a bunch of piecemeal revelations, he would combine them later on. Joseph had no problems about reviewing and improving upon the revelations he received, as he received new insight.

That is one of the amazing things about revelation. It is so....progressive.

Posted

God gave to Joseph Smith line upon line, precept upon precept. Often, Joseph would receive a revelation, only to later be given more details. Rather than have a bunch of piecemeal revelations, he would combine them later on. Joseph had no problems about reviewing and improving upon the revelations he received, as he received new insight.

That is one of the amazing things about revelation. It is so....progressive.

Exactly.

And I have no problem understanding how that would work,

I am sure that is how it worked with prophets of the past also.

We have the finished work of these prophets but we have no idea how even one verse may have developed during the life of that prophet.

I only have issue with changes taken on by others to revelations given to a prophet after the death of that prophet like in the case of the LXX (Septuagint) and the Latin Vulgate for instance.

If God calls a later prophet, we have the revelations given to that prophet.

That is how God "updates".

Bro. Rudick

Guest moronikid264
Posted · Hidden
Hidden

getting back on topic... threesome (or more) with more than one guy sounds gay, multiple women is ok because they cant have the priesthood and therefore are lesser beings.

Join the conversation

You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.
Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible.

Guest
Reply to this topic...

×   Pasted as rich text.   Paste as plain text instead

  Only 75 emoji are allowed.

×   Your link has been automatically embedded.   Display as a link instead

×   Your previous content has been restored.   Clear editor

×   You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL.

Loading...