Rebaptism And Sealing Question

[Guest poiball]

Hi, I'm new to this forum and have a question about rebaptism. My Ex was excommunicated when he was about 19. Shortly after we were married, he was rebaptised. We were sealed in the temple a year later. Shortly after we divorced 6 years and one child later, it came to light that he had had 12 different affairs while we were married as well as some other highly deviant behavior. He was excommunicated again. Within 8 months of the divorce, he went on to marry the last woman with whom he had an affair. She has since joined the church.

My question is: Can he be rebaptised again and have all of his priesthood ordinances restored? Must be have our sealing canceled in order to be sealed to his 2nd wife? Is it possible for him to be sealed to his 2nd wife since she was instrumental in our break up? I heard one time that a marriage based upon the break up of a previous temple marriage would not be eligible for temple sealing.

Thanks in advance for all your help.

[StrawberryFields]

Welcome to LDSTalk!

Wow, this can not be easy for you and your child.

I can understand your curiosity but do you really care? Is his previous wife chooses to be with a man like that and then to be sealed to him. I mean really, who would want to be with a guy like that?

[Guest poiball]

I probably should have clarified a little bit more. I do not, in any way shape or form, want to be with this man. It's just a slap in the face for him to be able to "replace" me in the eyes of the church. I may be bitter, but the divorce is still fairly raw in my mind.

Another reason it bothers me is that I come from a very long line of Mormons and some of my ancestors gave their lives for the church. It hurts to think that their lives were given for people who knew better but felt that they could go ahead and commit these sins knowing all the time that they would just repent one day.

It is hard for my son and it's compounded now that his father and his wife are pregnant. Thanks for your comments and warm welcome.

[StrawberryFields]

I guess what I really meant was his new wife can have him and all of his baggage.

If he ever really cleans up his act, you will be first, not replaced. Did you get a Temple divorce?

Something I believe is that our intentions will also measured come judgment day. One who knows better then sins anyway planning to repent later will be seen as such. Never forget that our Father In Heaven can see clear to our hearts.

IMO if you can begin to see this man as just your son¡Çs father you will be much better off. Is he good to your son?

[Guest TheProudDuck]

I have a hard time believing that the high Church leaders who have to approve cancellations of sealings would cancel a sealing to allow an adulterer, even a repentant one, to be sealed to the woman with whom he'd committed adultery.

[Setheus]

Originally posted by poiball@Feb 28 2005, 11:21 AM

Hi, I'm new to this forum and have a question about rebaptism. My Ex was excommunicated when he was about 19. Shortly after we were married, he was rebaptised. We were sealed in the temple a year later. Shortly after we divorced 6 years and one child later, it came to light that he had had 12 different affairs while we were married as well as some other highly deviant behavior. He was excommunicated again. Within 8 months of the divorce, he went on to marry the last woman with whom he had an affair. She has since joined the church.

My question is: Can he be rebaptised again and have all of his priesthood ordinances restored? Must be have our sealing canceled in order to be sealed to his 2nd wife? Is it possible for him to be sealed to his 2nd wife since she was instrumental in our break up? I heard one time that a marriage based upon the break up of a previous temple marriage would not be eligible for temple sealing.

Thanks in advance for all your help.

This is no job for the church....this is something that only one person can resolve...

JERRY SPRINGER!!!!!!!!!!

I'm just kidding. He sounds like a real dirt bag.

[Setheus]

Let me tell you, even IF this dirt bag were "allowed" to get away with his plan IF he isn't truly repentant (which is irrellivent since I don't see the church approving his sealing) he will "recieve his reward" in the end.

[Winnie G]

First :WHAT A MOMETIS DIRT BAG!

Second : You only get so many kicks at the can and I seen this happen before.

He could get it all back But and its only a But, it would take years of proving himself a worthy to receive this all back. That includes attending church meetings and being silent not holding a calling or so much as raising his hand in class to answer a question.

You know those personal priesthood interviews; well his butt would be in the bishop’s office every month. Word gets around he can not hide it, grape vine.

Most just give up and lick there egos and complain how wronged they have been.

[Guest curvette]

I've been told that a man can never be sealed to a woman if he'd had an adulterous affair with her (even if they are completely repentant.) I can't say for sure though because I haven't seen it in print.

[StrawberryFields]

Originally posted by Setheus@Feb 28 2005, 02:25 PM

Let me tell you, even IF this dirt bag were "allowed" to get away with his plan IF he isn't truly repentant (which is irrellivent since I don't see the church approving his sealing) he will "recieve his reward" in the end.

I know for a fact that this has happened, both parties lied.

I just wouldn't want to be them in the end.

[Guest poiball]

Thanks for all the comments and ideas. (it won't let me use the quote feature for so many replies, sorry)

If he ever really cleans up his act, you will be first, not replaced. Did you get a Temple divorce?

No, not yet. I would rather not stay sealed to him, but I know that in his present state, it's nothing to worry about.

IMO if you can begin to see this man as just your son¡Çs father you will be much better off. Is he good to your son?

He is relatively good to my son. After we were married 3 years I found out he had some major skeletons in his closet. (sexual sins against his brothers and sister) He's never done anything suspicious, but I'm hyper-vigilant and won't allow DS to spend the night at his house. Many of his exploits while we were married were extremely risky sexual behaviors (I don't want to be too detailed here because I don't think it would meet the standards for the LDS talk forum).

I have a hard time believing that the high Church leaders who have to approve cancellations of sealings would cancel a sealing to allow an adulterer, even a repentant one, to be sealed to the woman with whom he'd committed adultery.

I hope and pray that you are right about this. I wouldn't think that it would be possible either, but I didn't think that my marriage would explode like it did.

This is no job for the church....this is something that only one person can resolve...

JERRY SPRINGER!!!!!!!!!! I'm just kidding. He sounds like a real dirt bag.

You have no idea how many times I've been told this. I've only told you the tip of the iceburg for the whole story. Your head would swim if you heard it all!! Mine does on a daily basis!

Let me tell you, even IF this dirt bag were "allowed" to get away with his plan IF he isn't truly repentant (which is irrellivent since I don't see the church approving his sealing) he will "recieve his reward" in the end.

Thank you for saying this. I really hope you are right!!!

He could get it all back But and its only a But, it would take years of proving himself a worthy to receive this all back. That includes attending church meetings and being silent not holding a calling or so much as raising his hand in class to answer a question.

You know those personal priesthood interviews; well his butt would be in the bishop’s office every month. Word gets around he can not hide it, grape vine.

Most just give up and lick there egos and complain how wronged they have been.

That's just it - he's going through all of the mea culpas at church and the interviews almost every other week. He loves the attention. It's interesting to note that his new wife joined the church the week after he lost his job thus making him eligible for church welfare again.

I've been told that a man can never be sealed to a woman if he'd had an adulterous affair with her (even if they are completely repentant.) I can't say for sure though because I haven't seen it in print.

That's what I heard too. I guess I was hoping someone here knew where I could find this written down! :-) Does anyone know if the ex wife is consulted on a sealing cancellation? I know my father was consulted when my mother applied to have her sealing canceled.

Thanks again.

[Amillia]

Originally posted by poiball@Feb 28 2005, 12:46 PM

I probably should have clarified a little bit more. I do not, in any way shape or form, want to be with this man. It's just a slap in the face for him to be able to "replace" me in the eyes of the church. I may be bitter, but the divorce is still fairly raw in my mind.

Another reason it bothers me is that I come from a very long line of Mormons and some of my ancestors gave their lives for the church. It hurts to think that their lives were given for people who knew better but felt that they could go ahead and commit these sins knowing all the time that they would just repent one day.

It is hard for my son and it's compounded now that his father and his wife are pregnant. Thanks for your comments and warm welcome.

The Lord will decide what will be acceptable or not. Even if he does get sealed again, it will depend upon his righteousness whether or not it is real.

This guy isn't worth the sweat. Let the Lord deal with him.

[Winnie G]

We were at the bishop’s home last night we had dinner and I helps his wife learn how to use her new software for her computer for family history.

I asked the bishop the question posted here.

We are right he kicked his last can and only after years can he be baptized again he can never be sealed to the other women.

It would have to be a major change of heart and only Salt Lake can change that.

Our bishop said he as .5 % chance. Oh Boo hoo

He will get his come uppens as my grandmother would say.

[Guest poiball]

I can't thank you enough for asking your bishop this for me. It really means a lot and puts my mind at rest. Thank you, thank you!

Bonnie

[Amillia]

Originally posted by poiball@Mar 1 2005, 08:48 AM

I can't thank you enough for asking your bishop this for me. It really means a lot and puts my mind at rest. Thank you, thank you!

Bonnie

I'm glad you got the right answer and that it is a good one. :)

[Winnie G]

He did look at me kind of cockeyed at first then I explained I was looking for the answer for an on line friend.

He is a nice man, don’t know him to well yet since I just moved last spring and I don’t have a calling yet. He told my husband he has not given me a calling because I work to hard. :)

[Amillia]

Originally posted by Winnie G@Mar 1 2005, 11:17 AM

He did look at me kind of cockeyed at first then I explained I was looking for the answer for an on line friend.

He is a nice man, don’t know him to well yet since I just moved last spring and I don’t have a calling yet. He told my husband he has not given me a calling because I work to hard. :)

Well I believe you do work too hard and that sounds like a good bishop that has his eyes opened. :)