Guest Starsky Posted February 18, 2004 Report Posted February 18, 2004 Originally posted by Taoist_Saint@Feb 17 2004, 01:49 PM The eternal principle was a warning and punishment carried out. So in other words, Hebrews were aloud to enslave non-Hebrews, because they were pagans (application of the principle)...and the eternal principle in question was obedience to Yahweh. Did the pagans have much knowledge of Yahweh? Did they have prophets to tell them about Him? Did they ever stand a chance of observing the eternal principle of obedience to Yahweh? I think those are interesting questions. But I don't know all the answers. I only know the little bit recorded.There are those who have researched all of these things though...I have read some of their commentaries or listened to them on radio.The principle in the case of the slavery, is, IOHO, the Lord's preparing a people, whom He called His chosen.
Guest Starsky Posted February 18, 2004 Report Posted February 18, 2004 Originally posted by Taoist_Saint@Feb 17 2004, 01:50 PM Application-changesPrinciple-never!What was the eternal principle behind staying away from menstruating women? The principle was the principle of becoming cleansed from worldly spot and sin before the atonement had come.That which you mentioned above being an application of the ancient/pre-Christ's life.....people becoming and staying 'clean'. There were many rituals and rules attached to 'becoming and remaining clean'. That was just one.
Guest lt Posted February 19, 2004 Report Posted February 19, 2004 Originally posted by Taoist_Saint@Feb 17 2004, 02:35 PM So if there is no scripure support for anti-homosexual views beyond the Old Testament...and if homosexuality is truly an ADDICTION...then I guess the LDS might consider it a Word of Wisdom issue Taoist....I love that idea!
TheMatrix Posted September 5, 2009 Report Posted September 5, 2009 1 Cor 6:9-11 Do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived. Neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor homosexuals, nor sodomites, 10 nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners will inherit the kingdom of God. NKJV If that isnt enough. Rom 1:18-32 God's Wrath on Unrighteousness 18 For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men, who suppress the truth in unrighteousness, 19 because what may be known of God is manifest in them, for God has shown it to them. 20 For since the creation of the world His invisible attributes are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even His eternal power and Godhead, so that they are without excuse, 21 because, although they knew God, they did not glorify Him as God, nor were thankful, but became futile in their thoughts, and their foolish hearts were darkened. 22 Professing to be wise, they became fools, 23 and changed the glory of the incorruptible God into an image made like corruptible man — and birds and four-footed animals and creeping things. 24 Therefore God also gave them up to uncleanness, in the lusts of their hearts, to dishonor their bodies among themselves, 25 who exchanged the truth of God for the lie, and worshiped and served the creature rather than the Creator, who is blessed forever. Amen. 26 For this reason God gave them up to vile passions. For even their women exchanged the natural use for what is against nature. 27 Likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust for one another, men with men committing what is shameful, and receiving in themselves the penalty of their error which was due. 28 And even as they did not like to retain God in their knowledge, God gave them over to a debased mind, to do those things which are not fitting; 29 being filled with all unrighteousness, sexual immorality, wickedness, covetousness, maliciousness; full of envy, murder, strife, deceit, evil-mindedness; they are whisperers, 30 backbiters, haters of God, violent, proud, boasters, inventors of evil things, disobedient to parents, 31 undiscerning, untrustworthy, unloving, unforgiving, unmerciful; 32 who, knowing the righteous judgment of God, that those who practice such things are deserving of death, not only do the same but also approve of those who practice them. NKJV
TheMatrix Posted September 5, 2009 Report Posted September 5, 2009 1 Cor 6:9-11 Do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived. Neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor homosexuals, nor sodomites, 10 nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners will inherit the kingdom of God. NKJV Rom 1:18-32 God's Wrath on Unrighteousness 18 For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men, who suppress the truth in unrighteousness, 19 because what may be known of God is manifest in them, for God has shown it to them. 20 For since the creation of the world His invisible attributes are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even His eternal power and Godhead, so that they are without excuse, 21 because, although they knew God, they did not glorify Him as God, nor were thankful, but became futile in their thoughts, and their foolish hearts were darkened. 22 Professing to be wise, they became fools, 23 and changed the glory of the incorruptible God into an image made like corruptible man — and birds and four-footed animals and creeping things. 24 Therefore God also gave them up to uncleanness, in the lusts of their hearts, to dishonor their bodies among themselves, 25 who exchanged the truth of God for the lie, and worshiped and served the creature rather than the Creator, who is blessed forever. Amen. 26 For this reason God gave them up to vile passions. For even their women exchanged the natural use for what is against nature. 27 Likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust for one another, men with men committing what is shameful, and receiving in themselves the penalty of their error which was due. 28 And even as they did not like to retain God in their knowledge, God gave them over to a debased mind, to do those things which are not fitting; 29 being filled with all unrighteousness, sexual immorality, wickedness, covetousness, maliciousness; full of envy, murder, strife, deceit, evil-mindedness; they are whisperers, 30 backbiters, haters of God, violent, proud, boasters, inventors of evil things, disobedient to parents, 31 undiscerning, untrustworthy, unloving, unforgiving, unmerciful; 32 who, knowing the righteous judgment of God, that those who practice such things are deserving of death, not only do the same but also approve of those who practice them. NKJV
TheMatrix Posted September 5, 2009 Report Posted September 5, 2009 1 Cor 6:9-11 Do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived. Neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor homosexuals, nor sodomites, 10 nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners will inherit the kingdom of God. NKJV
pam Posted September 5, 2009 Report Posted September 5, 2009 I'm closing this thread as it was started in 2004 and wasn't posted on until today. And the fact that many of those that posted on this thread have since been banned over the years.
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