Reason verses Justification

[Traveler]

I thought I would leave this thought for a while to see if anyone is interested. I will be traveling for a few days and may not post but I am interested in what other may think and post. Let me begin with a legal definition used in real estate investing. If someone takes several (more than one) parcels of land and combines them into one project or lot this is called assemblage. If however, the new assemblage of land is now worth more than all the individual pieces then it is called plottage. A person can put together a lot larger to meet all kinds of desires. They can have every excuse for doing so but only if the value is greater can we acknowledge this as a profitable endeavor and call it plottage.

I would like to use this idea in considering justification verses reason.

The difference between justification and reason.

Justification is what you think and do to convince others and yourself that you are right or at least that you are not wrong in what you have done or are thinking.

Reason is the careful consideration of all possibilities and making a decision or choice and then making plans or covenants to accomplish what is best.

The difference between G-d and Satan is the process of justification verses reason. For example Satan does what he wants and then attempts to justify it with every and any excuse available. Where G-d will reason what is right an best and then determine how to accomplish it.

What is done by reason and what is done and then justified? Do others agree with this thinking? Do you establish yourself with reason or do you protect yourself with attempts at justification?

This applies to more than just your religious bias.

The Traveler

[HiJolly]

A potential problem: "Justification" is a state of being granted by God to his believers, upon their repentance & obedience, preliminary to their "Sanctification".

Could be a bit of confusion, because *this* usage is very good.

HiJolly

[Misshalfway]

A potential problem: "Justification" is a state of being granted by God to his believers, upon their repentance & obedience, preliminary to their "Sanctification".

Could be a bit of confusion, because *this* usage is very good.

HiJolly

I suppose the key here is "where" the justification is coming from.

I am reminded of what the wizard sings in the musical 'Wicked':

"......there are precious few at ease with moral abiguities.....So we act as though they don't exist."

Is this what you mean by "justificiation"?

[Traveler]

I suppose the key here is "where" the justification is coming from.

I am reminded of what the wizard sings in the musical 'Wicked':

"......there are precious few at ease with moral abiguities.....So we act as though they don't exist."

Is this what you mean by "justificiation"?

Another way to think of justification in this vein is excuse. In order words justification is what we do in order to think that we are worthwhile or acceptable or right. Think of a child that cries out - "He hit me first" or "I had it first". Or the politician that says "We need to be fair" or "They have a right to be treated equal". Or the religionist that proclaims, “I’ve been saved” or “The Bible (or any scripture) says it is so”.

Note that in such arguments that one is not giving testimony to the greatest good or declaring to even comprehend the greatest good. They are excusing themselves – then usually by indirect means indicate someone else as inferior – but not by any scales of knowledge or justice but that they deserve some special unearned privilege.

Reason is a little different. It is the result of searching, study, experience and coming to a “knowledge” be it of spiritual or temporal nature. It is the assurance of having considered the alternatives and applied the knowledge to obtain the truth. It is an assurance of being correct – like Gandhi when he said, “I am what I teach” or Jesus when he said “I am the way the truth and the light”. A person that understands reason takes ownership and realizes that they are responsible for who they are and what they profess – even considering that they are deeply involved in G-d and covenants and that they serve a good and true G-d.

The Traveler