What I Hope For, In The Upcoming Gen'l Conf.

[Meridiani]

I would write a letter to the First Presidency (if I knew that it got read):

so, discounting the fact that there seems to be a deaf ear, in certain places, I post here.

Substance of my "wish list" (which is short):

Please, Elder Faust, don't make another talk that seems to be a gross departure from what it is that you are called to do, namely, "Testify of Christ".

Please, Elder Faust, refrain from talking derogatorily about a long-dead, well-known, and highly-appreciated (and respected) American satirist of the 19th (and part of the 20th) century.

Please, Elder Faust, don't disparage and sully the name of someone who cannot defend himself and his reputation because he is dead and cannot come back to do so!

Please, Elder Faust, think twice about commiting yourself to a "talk" that comes across as little more than the gossipy whisperings of a small flock of school girls!

Please, Elder Faust, remember that "gossip" includes talking about someone without telling the listener who the person is--the one who you are talking about: like, for sure, we won't say (whisper, whisper), but you know who this person is, already (whisper, whisper)!

[Amillia]

Originally posted by Meridiani@Mar 23 2005, 05:59 PM

I would write a letter to the First Presidency (if I knew that it got read):

so, discounting the fact that there seems to be a deaf ear, in certain places, I post here.

Substance of my "wish list" (which is short):

Please, Elder Faust, don't make another talk that seems to be a gross departure from what it is that you are called to do, namely, "Testify of Christ".

Please, Elder Faust, refrain from talking derogatorily about a long-dead, well-known, and highly-appreciated (and respected) American satirist of the 19th (and part of the 20th) century.

Please, Elder Faust, don't disparage and sully the name of someone who cannot defend himself and his reputation because he is dead and cannot come back to do so!

Please, Elder Faust, think twice about commiting yourself to a "talk" that comes across as little more than the gossipy whisperings of a small flock of school girls!

Please, Elder Faust, remember that "gossip" includes talking about someone without telling the listener who the person is--the one who you are talking about: like, for sure, we won't say (whisper, whisper), but you know who this person is, already (whisper, whisper)!

That is a very pathetic and blind list you have there.

First, if you don't like to listen to what is taught or spoken at GC, don't listen ~ I don't think anyone is tying you to a chair in front of the TV.

Elder Faust does what he feels he is supposed to do ~ and since you will never walk in the man's shoes ~ get off his back.

Consider that most anti's use all their energy to sully and disparagethe name of someone who cannot defend himself and his reputation because he is dead and cannot come back to do so! ~he is a man named Joseph Smith.

Ignorant rantings like yours is much worse than what you call gossipy whisperings . I find his talks very good and uplifting.

Do you feel a need to know who is being used as an example? Jesus taught much the same way ~ through parables ~ and the guilty were offended. :)

Get a life and leave those who are doing their best to lead a huge church in old age ~ (when most are just sitting in their easy chair moving only to let the gas escape!) and do what you can to uplift....instead of tear down!!!

Any moron can tear down the work of others ~ it takes a real person of character to spend their life in service to others like the apostles do.

[Guest JRodan]

Samuel Clemens, aka Mark Twain

(thought I might try to beat Maureen to the punch)

[Meridiani]

Originally posted by JRodan@Mar 24 2005, 08:49 AM

Samuel Clemens, aka Mark Twain

(thought I might try to beat Maureen to the punch)

Thank you for your input.

I think, however, that you missed the whole point.

[Jason]

Get a life and leave those who are doing their best to lead a huge church in old age...

Huge??? Last I checked, there were only around 12 million members in the entire world.

[Meridiani]

Originally posted by Amillia@Mar 23 2005, 11:34 PM

Any moron can tear down the work of others ~ it takes a real person of character to spend their life in service to others...

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My thoughts exactly (except for the name-calling, I mean):

That's why I wrote the critique!

[Amillia]

Originally posted by Meridiani+Mar 24 2005, 11:50 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Meridiani @ Mar 24 2005, 11:50 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin--Amillia@Mar 23 2005, 11:34 PM

Any moron can tear down the work of others ~ it takes a real person of character to spend their life in service to others...

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My thoughts exactly (except for the name-calling, I mean):

That's why I wrote the critique!

I don't get you at all. YOu left off thepoint about them being apostles giving their whole life !~ and say that you agree? then you use that statement to endorse critiquing?

mass of confusion is what you are.....

[Amillia]

Originally posted by ExMormon-Jason@Mar 24 2005, 11:45 AM

Get a life and leave those who are doing their best to lead a huge church in old age...

Huge??? Last I checked, there were only around 12 million members in the entire world.

Yes Huge. It is world wide ~ and more vibrant and involved with each individual than most churches. Not to mention more publications than any other church has, in more languages.

[Jason]

Yes Huge. It is world wide ~ and more vibrant and involved with each individual than most churches.

While I respect your opinion, this is not supported by factual evidence. With roughly 2 Billion Christians in the world, a sect of 12 million is just a "drop in the bucket". For example, there are about 1 Billion Roman Catholics in the world. In other words, 1/6th of the world's population is RC. That's a "Huge" church.

  Not to mention more publications than any other church has, in more languages.

I seriously doubt this claim. Do you have any facts to back it up?

[Nottingham]

The one thing I, myself, have got to "hand it to" other Christian leaders for [ie, other denominations] is that the Pope never departs from the central message of his religion, which is the message of Christ; and, the second example is Billy Graham, who can talk for hours and hours and hours on the mission and redemption of Christ. The latter has not at any time departed from his "central theme", either, as far as I know.

Is Graham "old", too? Yes

Is the Pope "old", too? Most Definitely

The above are two examples (two "old guys", whose examples are worth following).

[Outshined]

Originally posted by Nottingham@Mar 26 2005, 02:34 AM

The one thing I, myself, have got to "hand it to" other Christian leaders for [ie, other denominations] is that the Pope never departs from the central message of his religion, which is the message of Christ; and, the second example is Billy Graham, who can talk for hours and hours and hours on the mission and redemption of Christ. The latter has not at any time departed from his "central theme", either, as far as I know.

Is Graham "old", too? Yes

Is the Pope "old", too? Most Definitely

The above are two examples (two "old guys", whose examples are worth following).

Consider the source of that ridiculous accusation...

[Guest JRodan]

Originally posted by Meridiani@Mar 24 2005, 11:38 AM

I think, however, that you missed the whole point.

And I think you assume too much.

[Randy Johnson]

Originally posted by Meridiani@Mar 23 2005, 05:59 PM

I would write a letter to the First Presidency (if I knew that it got read):

so, discounting the fact that there seems to be a deaf ear, in certain places, I post here.

Substance of my "wish list" (which is short):

Please, Elder Faust, don't make another talk that seems to be a gross departure from what it is that you are called to do, namely, "Testify of Christ".

Please, Elder Faust, refrain from talking derogatorily about a long-dead, well-known, and highly-appreciated (and respected) American satirist of the 19th (and part of the 20th) century.

Please, Elder Faust, don't disparage and sully the name of someone who cannot defend himself and his reputation because he is dead and cannot come back to do so!

Please, Elder Faust, think twice about commiting yourself to a "talk" that comes across as little more than the gossipy whisperings of a small flock of school girls!

Please, Elder Faust, remember that "gossip" includes talking about someone without telling the listener who the person is--the one who you are talking about: like, for sure, we won't say (whisper, whisper), but you know who this person is, already (whisper, whisper)!

Hello there!

Just an observation..but if thats your list of what you want to get from listening to GC...you obviously have little going on upstairs.

Seems to me that you would want to have your faith in Christ strengthened, your desire to serve invigorated....your love for your fellow man increased.

You are definately in need of an attitude adjustment to say the least.

Lets assume for a quick moment...that I could somewhat agree with your assessment of Elder Faust's talks...(which I do not).....I must ask the question....

SO? Whats your Point?

There are many, many other inspiring talks that are given that if you came to the feast prepared to eat...you would most certainly walk away spiritually fed and full!

I think you suffer from lack of spiritual preparation!

Just my thoughts...

....oh...and a big hearty AMEN to you Amillia! You are right on!

randy

[Guest JRodan]

Originally posted by JRodan+Mar 26 2005, 07:46 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (JRodan @ Mar 26 2005, 07:46 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteBegin--Meridiani@Mar 24 2005, 11:38 AM

I think, however, that you missed the whole point.

And I think you assume too much.

Though, now you have my okay to assume all you want about Randy's scolding above. I find it amusing when somebody screams at you only to later inquire as to your point.

[Snow]

Originally posted by Nottingham@Mar 26 2005, 12:34 AM

The one thing I, myself, have got to "hand it to" other Christian leaders for [ie, other denominations] is that the Pope never departs from the central message of his religion, which is the message of Christ; and, the second example is Billy Graham, who can talk for hours and hours and hours on the mission and redemption of Christ. The latter has not at any time departed from his "central theme", either, as far as I know.

As far as you know?

Let me suggest you don't know much. The Pope has spoken, often extensively, on contraception, capitalism, communism, female clergy, sexual abuse, liberation theology, Opus Dei, Cyril and Bennedict, getting shot, the military, economics, neoliberalism, Chilean culture, Cuban history, free press, free trade, paganism, Hinduism, erotic desire, Greek culture, Greek history, "Greek" sex... etc (add thousands of other items here).

Billy Graham has always been a well-read and educated reader able and willing to discuss notable recent and historical figures like Bobby Kennedy, Churchill, or Arthur Krock. Graham wrote an article form Life magazine on Nixon, the man, and came close to publically endorsing him for office. Graham loved to golf and would talk about it at lenght. He used a cross-over grip but gave it up execpt for putting.

All interesting topics but not exactly "the central message of his religion" unless you define 'central' as 'everything and anything.'