The Millenium?

[annamaureen]

All the dead are resurrected at the Millennium, right? But do the resurrected come live on the earth, or remain in the spirit world/heaven?

Edited October 12, 2009 by annamaureen

[HiJolly]

All the dead are resurrected at the Millennium, right? But do the resurrected come live on the earth, or remain in the spirit world/heaven?

The first resurrection started at the resurrection of Jesus Christ and continues on until some point which has not yet been chronologically declared.

The second begins after the millennium and continues on until some undefined time (same lack of explicit time as the first res).

The righteous resurrected will (may) live on the Earth, but not the wicked, as the Earth will be Celestialized.

HiJolly

[Justice]

Read about the resurrection in the LDS Bible Dictionary. It has a lot of good information and scriptures.

What HiJolly said is correct. The only part I might feel differently about is that the First Resurrection will end at the start of the Millenium. It began as He said, after Christ was resurrected. All those who died in Christ before His resurrection were resurrected at that time. With a few execptions, all those who died in Christ after His resurrection will be resurrected at the start of the Millenium. All who are resurrected at these times are part of the First Resurrection. During the Millenium there will be no need for resurrection, since there will be no death. All will be changed from mortality to immortality "in the twinkling of an eye." So, that only leaves all who died not believing in Christ to be resurrected after the Millenium, and that is called the Last Resurrection.

All will be resurrected, and all will stand before God and be judged according to their works.

[tubaloth]

All the dead are resurrected at the Millennium, right?

Yes as some point in time during the Millennium all well be ressurected.

But do the resurrected come live on the earth, or remain in the spirit world/heaven?

Those that are ressurected first do come to this earth because Heaven (Celestial Glory) well be here. (after the Millennium).

Others well also be Ressurected later on, and they well be here for a time, but after the final judgement (end of the Millennium) they well go to a Kingdom of Glory which I assume is some other place.

[Hemidakota]

The first resurrection is on-going since the Savior opens the doors to the paradise and spirit prison [those who accepted it]. It is on-going until the end of this earth. When this is finished most of this earth will come forth in the after-noon of the first and morning of the second. Then comes those who are perditions, which is called the afternoon of the second. When this is complete, the last to be resurrected are those who are sealed but failed to repent in mortality. They must suffer their own sins first in-order to be cleansed to stand before GOD presence.

[Hemidakota]

Yes as some point in time during the Millennium all well be ressurected.

Those that are ressurected first do come to this earth because Heaven (Celestial Glory) well be here. (after the Millennium).

Others well also be Ressurected later on, and they well be here for a time, but after the final judgement (end of the Millennium) they well go to a Kingdom of Glory which I assume is some other place.

There are members of the Church of First-Born, which will be resurrected prior to judgment or the end of the Millennium. Others will have to wait.

The Kingdom of Glory in the end is this Earth, when it is added too and glorified before the throne of GOD. This earth will be a step-stool for the Savior when He goes forth and builds His own worlds.

[Ezequiel]

ok, I hope I dont sway this topic too far off-topic, but I was wondering. If the earth will be changed and receive a paradisiacal glory, and becomes the celestial kingdom and inherited by the exalted; where will the other two kingdoms be? What will happen with the spirit world, when all the spirits kept there, are resurrected? Anyone has any insights concerning that?

[joofob]

As others have pointed out All the dead will not be resurrected at or during the millennium.

There are 2 main types of resurrections with subgroups. 1. The first resurrection 2. The second resurrection.

The first resurrection contains 2 distinct types of resurrections, the morning of the first resurrection and the eve of the first resurrection. The morning of the first began when Christ raised himself from the dead and was the first fruits. All the righteous saints that are to receive a celestial inheritance that came before Christ where also raised at that point. The morning of the first resurrection has continued to this day and will be wrapped up with the coming of Christ. Those who die during the millennium will be resurrected having not tasted of the fruits of death ( it will be an instant change from death to resurrection ) At some point during the millennium the eve of the second resurrection will occur and all those who have inherited a terrestrial glory will rise and become resurrected beings.

The second resurrection contains 2 distinct types of resurrections, the morning of the second resurrection and the eve of the second resurrection. The morning of the second will begin after the millennium and those will receive a telestial glory. The eve will occur later, but before the final judgement and those will inherit outer darkness.

At the time of the millennium the earth will inherit a paradisaical glory as it was before the fall. That would be a terrestrial state and not celestial. After the millennium the earth will be resurrected and inherit its celestial glory.

[Hemidakota]

ok, I hope I dont sway this topic too far off-topic, but I was wondering. If the earth will be changed and receive a paradisiacal glory, and becomes the celestial kingdom and inherited by the exalted; where will the other two kingdoms be? What will happen with the spirit world, when all the spirits kept there, are resurrected? Anyone has any insights concerning that?

Adding to Joofob post, the earth will need to be moved since a terrestrial world cannot abide with telestial worlds. The glory of such is different as Paul stated to the Corinthians. If I can add to Paul’s statement, when one looks at the Sun and physical light shining upon this earth, the difference between these glorify state is adding ‘three times’ the light of the Sun. Finally, as the earth finally received its Celestial glory, it will again have to be moved to abide in that state of glory. What becomes of the earth after that is not written. I can assume, it will eventually have its own space in which to build upon as another Milky Way….

Last, prior to this final added glory, all of those spirits who cannot abide in the celestial glory will be moved to that state assigned. What are left on this earth as human life are those who inherit the celestial kingdom.

[TheAngelPalmoni]

So if the millennium is in the next 7 years it's probably not a good idea to start medical school?

Angel Palmoni

www.angelpalmoni.com

[HiJolly]

So if the millennium is in the next 7 years it's probably not a good idea to start medical school?

Angel Palmoni

Who said it would start in the next 7 years?

Go to medical school.

HiJolly

[TheAngelPalmoni]

IF

I guess that would be the key word in the sentence. No one said but hey if you really wanted to know when it was I'm sure that you could Find out at least the Year.

Remarks on the coming of the Son of Man by Joseph Smith the Prophet. 3 Made in Nauvoo Christ says no man knoweth the day or the hour when the Son of Man cometh. This is a sweeping argument for sectarianism against Latter day ism. Did Christ speak this as a general principle throughout all generations Oh no he spoke in the present tense no man that was then living upon the footstool of God knew the day or the hour But he did not say that there was no man throughout all generations that should not know the day or the hour. No for this would be in flat contradiction with other scripture for the prophet says that God will do nothing but what he will reveal unto his Servants the prophets consequently if it is not made known to the Prophets it will not come to pass;

again we find Paul 1st Thessalonians 5th Chapter expressly points out the characters who shall not know the day nor the hour when the Son of Man cometh for says he it will come upon them as thief or unawares. Who are they they are the children of darkness or night. But to the Saints he says yea are not of the night nor of darkness of that that day should come upon you unawares. John the revolter says 14 chap 7th verse that the hour of his judgements is come they are precursors or forerunners of the coming of Christ. read Matthew 24 Chap and all the Prophets.

Scriptural Time

[Hemidakota]

So if the millennium is in the next 7 years it's probably not a good idea to start medical school?

Angel Palmoni

www.angelpalmoni.com

Lets hope not...

[Hemidakota]

IF

I guess that would be the key word in the sentence. No one said but hey if you really wanted to know when it was I'm sure that you could Find out at least the Year.

Remarks on the coming of the Son of Man by Joseph Smith the Prophet. 3 Made in Nauvoo Christ says no man knoweth the day or the hour when the Son of Man cometh. This is a sweeping argument for sectarianism against Latter day ism. Did Christ speak this as a general principle throughout all generations Oh no he spoke in the present tense no man that was then living upon the footstool of God knew the day or the hour But he did not say that there was no man throughout all generations that should not know the day or the hour. No for this would be in flat contradiction with other scripture for the prophet says that God will do nothing but what he will reveal unto his Servants the prophets consequently if it is not made known to the Prophets it will not come to pass;

again we find Paul 1st Thessalonians 5th Chapter expressly points out the characters who shall not know the day nor the hour when the Son of Man cometh for says he it will come upon them as thief or unawares. Who are they they are the children of darkness or night. But to the Saints he says yea are not of the night nor of darkness of that that day should come upon you unawares. John the revolter says 14 chap 7th verse that the hour of his judgements is come they are precursors or forerunners of the coming of Christ. read Matthew 24 Chap and all the Prophets.

Scriptural Time

Interesting...perhaps numbers do have a meaning.

“If this dispensational restoration of the gospel reaches its 24th prophet, would that constitute a end is nigh? If it is, would a prophet having the same name as King David would be its last prophet?”

[Maxel]

“If this dispensational restoration of the gospel reaches its 24th prophet, would that constitute a end is nigh? If it is, would a prophet having the same name as King David would be its last prophet?”

David... Bednar?!

So, when Elder Bednar becomes the prophet, the Millennium is nigh.

[Dravin]

David... Bednar?!

So, when Elder Bednar becomes the prophet, the Millennium is nigh.

I hoping it's an error and suppose to be Dieter, no offense to Elder Bednar but I prefer President Uchtdorf's accent. :)

[annamaureen]

“If this dispensational restoration of the gospel reaches its 24th prophet, would that constitute a end is nigh? If it is, would a prophet having the same name as King David would be its last prophet?”

Wait, where did this come from?

[Hemidakota]

It was a jest....:) Using the verse where there was 24-elders standing before the throne of GOD in the Book of Revelations and some of the brethren believe there will be a living prophet named after King David in the last days that will inherit his glory. I will need to looked that up to make a reference stand.

However, TheAngelPalmoni is correct on symboloy of numbers seen in the scripture as a key. There are many instances where the Lord uses different numbers to represent a truth hidden. Seven is the most common of all symbolic numbers. It is employed more frequently, and with more consistency, than any other number, theologically or culturally. In fact, there are so many references to the number seven in scripture and Semitic literature that one scholar suggested this is proof that something symbolic is intended. This same source suggested that it would take nothing short of a miracle to chronicle and explain all of the references to the number seven in the Bible, let alone in Judaeo-Christian ritual and extracanonical religious texts. Seven symbolizes fulness, completion, entirety or totality, and spiritual perfection. As a rule, multiples of seven carry the same spiritual or symbolic significance. Etymologically, seven is connected with the Hebrew words for "full," "satisfied," or "complete."

[TheAngelPalmoni]

Seven is an extremely symbolic number within the scriptures. Seven Times is used to represent an exact period of time within Daniel 4. Verse 23 is especially good. A Times Time and a Half a Time is also used as an exact period of time. Same with a Times Time and a Dividing of a Time. A Little Season is a little more flexible in that it can be any time between 5 minutes from now until and entire Season. Daniel 12:11-13 From the time of the Daily sacrifice... there shall be 1290 days/years... and then 1335 days/years until the "end of the days". There are many many many more timelines within the scriptures that are exactly to the day. I've been blown away by how exact everything is. To say that something is plain and precious also means that there is Complicated and precious. These are not plain and precious things that have been altered with. These are complicated and therefore have been left alone. Along with my personal study of the Gospel for the last many years I've been studying these time periods and they all match up exactly.

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Angel Palmoni

[Hemidakota]

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[sixpacktr]

As others have pointed out All the dead will not be resurrected at or during the millennium.

There are 2 main types of resurrections with subgroups. 1. The first resurrection 2. The second resurrection.

The first resurrection contains 2 distinct types of resurrections, the morning of the first resurrection and the eve of the first resurrection. The morning of the first began when Christ raised himself from the dead and was the first fruits. All the righteous saints that are to receive a celestial inheritance that came before Christ where also raised at that point. The morning of the first resurrection has continued to this day and will be wrapped up with the coming of Christ. Those who die during the millennium will be resurrected having not tasted of the fruits of death ( it will be an instant change from death to resurrection ) At some point during the millennium the eve of the second resurrection will occur and all those who have inherited a terrestrial glory will rise and become resurrected beings.

The second resurrection contains 2 distinct types of resurrections, the morning of the second resurrection and the eve of the second resurrection. The morning of the second will begin after the millennium and those will receive a telestial glory. The eve will occur later, but before the final judgement and those will inherit outer darkness.

At the time of the millennium the earth will inherit a paradisaical glory as it was before the fall. That would be a terrestrial state and not celestial. After the millennium the earth will be resurrected and inherit its celestial glory.

Both you and Justice (I believe) stated that the 1st resurrection ends with the coming of Christ to usher in the millennium, and that those that die during the millennium won't be resurrected by changed in the twinkling of an eye.

I haven't heard this before (not saying it isn't true, I just haven't heard it). I have always thought that the morning of the 1st resurrection INCLUDED the millennium, in that we are resurrected (albeit changed in the twinkling of an eye). Why is there a space between resurrections? What sources do you have to back that up (again, I'm genuinely curious, not trying to defend one or the other), that the the morning of the 1st resurrection ends with Christ's coming?

[sixpacktr]

David... Bednar?!

So, when Elder Bednar becomes the prophet, the Millennium is nigh.

Don't assume it is his first name.

We're talking about GAs, so his name may be something like...

R. DAVID Jones...:)

[Hemidakota]

D&C 132-38 David also received many wives and concubines, and also Solomon and Moses my servants, as also many others of my servants, from the beginning of creation until this time; and in nothing did they sin save in those things which they received not of me.
39 David’s wives and concubines were given unto him of me, by the hand of Nathan, my servant, and others of the prophets who had the keys of this power; and in none of these things did he sin against me save in the case of Uriah and his wife; and, therefore he hath fallen from his exaltation, and received his portion; and he shall not inherit them out of the world, for I gave them unto another, saith the Lord.

"David's wives . . . shall not inherit them out of the world
A murderer, for instance, one that sheds innocent blood, cannot have forgiveness. David sought repentance at the hand of God carefully with tears, for the murder of Uriah; but he could only get it through hell: He got a promise that his soul should not be left in hell.
Although David was a king, he never did obtain the spirit and power of Elijah and the fullness of the Priesthood; and the Priesthood that he received, and the throne and kingdom of David is to be taken from him and given to another by the name of David in the last days, raised up out of his lineage." (Prophet Joseph Smith, HC 6:253, March 10, 1844.)

"There was a man in ancient times, named David, and because he was a man after God's own heart, the Lord chose him to be king over Israel. . . . But after Saul had been cut off and David had been elevated to the throne of Israel, the Lord also gave him all the wives of Saul his master. So says Nathan the Prophet, and he was sent to reprove David. [2 Sam. 12:1-14.] What had he done to need reproof? Why he had taken his neighbor's wife, a person he had no claim upon, and he not only committed adultery by thus taking the wife of another, but by his order her lawful husband was placed in front of the battle that he might be destroyed, and he was destroyed, hence, though he himself did not thrust a dagger to his heart, he became a murderer in the sight of heaven by having this man placed where his blood would be shed. [ibid., 11:2-27.] After all his goodness, and after all the light and knowledge which God had given to this man, he committed these two great crimes. Nathan the Prophet was sent to reprove him. . . . With what kind of punishment was this man punished? Amongst them was that of suffering in the eternal worlds. How long? I cannot say exactly, but a good many centuries, a thousand years at least; this man, once righteous, now wicked, had to suffer the penalty of that crime. Did he repent? He did. Did he cry unto the Lord? He did. Was he sorely troubled? He was, and he was perhaps as repentant as any one could be; but the decree had gone forth, and hence that man had to endure the penalty of his crime. Peter, when referring to this subject on the day of Pentecost, as recorded in the second chapter of the Acts of the Apostles, quotes from the Psalms of David, and says, "Thou hast not left my soul in hell, neither wilt thou suffer thine Holy One to see corruption." [Psalm 16:10; Acts 2:27, 31.] It seems that after all, though David's repentance could not wipe away his sin, yet he had a hope, and he looked forward to the time when he would be liberated from hell; when that time arrived he would come forth and receive some kind of a glory, how much I do not know, for it is not revealed; but suffice it to say, he sinned against great light and knowledge and because of his sin he fell from a very high position. (Elder Orson Pratt, JD, January 19, 1873, 15:316-17.)

[Hemidakota]

Both you and Justice (I believe) stated that the 1st resurrection ends with the coming of Christ to usher in the millennium, and that those that die during the millennium won't be resurrected by changed in the twinkling of an eye.

I haven't heard this before (not saying it isn't true, I just haven't heard it). I have always thought that the morning of the 1st resurrection INCLUDED the millennium, in that we are resurrected (albeit changed in the twinkling of an eye). Why is there a space between resurrections? What sources do you have to back that up (again, I'm genuinely curious, not trying to defend one or the other), that the the morning of the 1st resurrection ends with Christ's coming?

This is what Elder McConkie had to say on this subject:

The "first resurrection" is spoken of in several sections of the Doctrine and Covenants (45:54; 63:18; 76:64; 132:19, 26). It has been defined in the following terms: "While there was a general resurrection of the righteous at the time Christ arose from the dead, it is customary for us to speak of the resurrection of the righteous at the Second Coming of Christ as the first resurrection. It is the first to us, for we have little thought or concern over that which is past. The Lord has promised that at the time of his Second Advent the graves will be opened, and the just shall come forth to reign with him on the earth for a thousand years." (DS 2:295.)

"It is the opinion of some that the resurrection is going on all the time now, but this is purely speculation without warrant in the scriptures. It is true that the Lord has power to call forth any person or persons from the dead, as he may desire, especially if they have a mission to perform which would require their resurrection. For example, we have the cases of Peter, James, and Moroni.

"We are given to understand that the first resurrection yet future, which means the coming forth of the righteous, will take place at one particular time, which is when our Savior shall appear in the clouds of heaven, when he shall return to reign." (DS 2:299.)

If we look upon the resurrections which have already taken place as a prelude to the "first resurrection," as defined above, then there are three more phases of this "first resurrection" to consider. First, there will be the resurrection of the righteous who have died since the days of the Savior. These will join those worthy souls who are living on the earth at the time of Christ's coming in being "caught up to meet him" and accompany him in his descent to earth. This latter group will pass through an immediate "quickening"; that is, their death and resurrection will be instantaneous (D&C 88:96-98).

The second phase of the "first resurrection" will involve "those who are Christ's at his coming" (D&C 88:99). "In this resurrection will come forth those of the terrestrial order, who were not worthy to be caught up to meet him, but who are worthy to come forth to enjoy the millenial reign" (DS 2:296-97).

The third phase will involve those who live during the thousand years of peace, who shall "not sleep ... in the earth, but shall be changed in the twinkling of an eye" when they reach "the age of a tree," or "an hundred years old" (D&C 101:29-31; Isa. 65:20).

Mormon Doctrine by Bruce R. McConkie