Guest Starsky Posted February 22, 2004 Report Posted February 22, 2004 Aztec people, takes the reader on an epic adventure down the pathways of history to the ancient land of Canaan. Quote
Rodney Posted February 22, 2004 Report Posted February 22, 2004 Originally posted by Tr2@Feb 22 2004, 08:42 AM How does that prove the BoM? The same way Snow "proves" you're a fraud--manipulation, repetition, and wishful thinking. Quote
Guest Starsky Posted February 22, 2004 Report Posted February 22, 2004 Originally posted by Tr2@Feb 22 2004, 07:42 AM How does that prove the BoM? Are you kidding? Did you read it all carefully? Quote
Cal Posted February 22, 2004 Report Posted February 22, 2004 The only real "pathway" that makes any sense scientifically leads back across the Bering Strait to North east Asia---liguistics, genetics, the whole ball of wax. Opps! I forgot. Archeologists, Anthropologists, Linguists and Geneticists are ignorant fools. They rely on physical evidence! Quote
Guest Starsky Posted February 22, 2004 Report Posted February 22, 2004 Originally posted by Cal@Feb 22 2004, 11:05 AM The only real "pathway" that makes any sense scientifically leads back across the Bering Strait to North east Asia---liguistics, genetics, the whole ball of wax.Opps! I forgot. Archeologists, Anthropologists, Linguists and Geneticists are ignorant fools. They rely on physical evidence! ...Well you said it, I didn't. Quote
Snow Posted February 22, 2004 Report Posted February 22, 2004 Originally posted by Rodney+Feb 22 2004, 10:21 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Rodney @ Feb 22 2004, 10:21 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin--Tr2@Feb 22 2004, 08:42 AM How does that prove the BoM? The same way Snow "proves" you're a fraud--manipulation, repetition, and wishful thinking. Prove is a strong word H,I merely offered consistence evidence to that effect. Quote
Cal Posted February 22, 2004 Report Posted February 22, 2004 Peace--Don't be coy-----you have said it many times right on this forum! But I have to say, you are quite consistent in your mode of thinking--it goes like this " Use science to bolster anything that that will help prove what I already believe. If science contradicts it, then "what do scientists know?" I call that intellectual dishonesty. By the way, this applies to Travelers way of thinking too. Quote
Guest Starsky Posted February 22, 2004 Report Posted February 22, 2004 Well Cal...when I find truth, and more truth...yes indeed I agree with truth. When I hear folly, I state that it is folly and it matters not from whence it comes.The problem with you cal is that you are trying to avoid God. That may work for you for a little 'season' but then you will have to admit....someday, somewhere, that you were wrong and Truth will win out.D&C 121: 12 12 And also that God hath set his hand and seal to change the times and seasons, and to blind their minds, that they may not understand his marvelous workings; that he may prove them also and take them in their own craftiness;Interesting that JS....was given to know that in these days there would be a changing of the seasons...and that people like yourself would be 'blinded' and crafty. Quote
Cal Posted February 22, 2004 Report Posted February 22, 2004 Peace--gee, that really impresses me! JS says if I don't believe him I'm going to hell? That might make some sense if you could prove that JS wasn't dilusional in the first place!By the way--- As I have said more than once--just because I don't believe in YOUR GOD, doesn't mean I don't believe in MINE! I guess those kinds of distinctions are beyond you. You see, my God doesn't insist that I ignore the obvious! In fact he insists that I first use my reason and logic, and do some real work to find the truth of things--which I find illusive and ambiguous most the time, but at least I'm not taking the easy route and relying on some half-baked religious authority, who I have never met, to tell me what to believe. Quote
Guest Starsky Posted February 22, 2004 Report Posted February 22, 2004 D&C 88:21 And they who are not sanctified through the law which I have given unto you, even the law of Christ, must inherit another kingdom, even that of a terrestrial kingdom, or that of a telestial kingdom.22 For he who is not able to abide the law of a celestial kingdom cannot abide a celestial glory.23 And he who cannot abide the law of a terrestrial kingdom cannot abide a terrestrial glory.24 And he who cannot abide the law of a telestial kingdom cannot abide a telestial glory; therefore he is not meet for a kingdom of glory. Therefore he must abide a kingdom which is not a kingdom of glory.25 And again, verily I say unto you, the earth abideth the law of a celestial kingdom, for it filleth the measure of its creation, and transgresseth not the law—26 Wherefore, it shall be sanctified; yea, notwithstanding it shall die, it shall be quickened again, and shall abide the power by which it is quickened, and the righteous shall inherit it.27 For notwithstanding they die, they also shall rise again, a spiritual body.28 They who are of a celestial spirit shall receive the same body which was a natural body; even ye shall receive your bodies, and your glory shall be that glory by which your bodies are quickened.29 Ye who are quickened by a portion of the celestial glory shall then receive of the same, even a fulness.30 And they who are quickened by a portion of the terrestrial glory shall then receive of the same, even a fulness.31 And also they who are quickened by a portion of the telestial glory shall then receive of the same, even a fulness.32 And they who remain shall also be quickened; nevertheless, they shall return again to their own place, to enjoy that which they are willing to receive, because they were not willing to enjoy that which they might have received.33 For what doth it profit a man if a gift is bestowed upon him, and he receive not the gift? Behold, he rejoices not in that which is given unto him, neither rejoices in him who is the giver of the gift.[/34 And again, verily I say unto you, that which is governed by law is also preserved by law and perfected and sanctified by the same.35 That which breaketh a law, and abideth not by law, but seeketh to become a law unto itself, and willeth to abide in sin, and altogether abideth in sin, cannot be sanctified by law, neither by mercy, justice, nor judgment. Therefore, they must remain filthy still. Quote
Guest Starsky Posted February 22, 2004 Report Posted February 22, 2004 D&C 88: 40 40 For intelligence cleaveth unto intelligence; wisdom receiveth wisdom; truth embraceth truth; virtue loveth virtue; light cleaveth unto light; mercy hath compassion on mercy and claimeth her own; justice continueth its course and claimeth its own; judgment goeth before the face of him who sitteth upon the throne and governeth and executeth all things. Quote
Tr2 Posted February 22, 2004 Report Posted February 22, 2004 Are you kidding? Did you read it all carefully?It's like talking to a retarded dog. I did read it, that is why I asked the question.The same way Snow "proves" you're a fraud--manipulation, repetition, and wishful thinking.Don't know where this came from, but you can crawl back into the hole you came from. Quote
Guest Starsky Posted February 22, 2004 Report Posted February 22, 2004 Originally posted by Tr2@Feb 22 2004, 12:11 PM Are you kidding? Did you read it all carefully?It's like talking to a retarded dog. I did read it, that is why I asked the question. Well maybe you have to have a deeper background to see what I found there to be validating.If so, I can't help you until you do some more studying. Really, knowledge is enlarging in your understanding. Quote
Cal Posted February 22, 2004 Report Posted February 22, 2004 Peace---why don't you think for yourself, instead of quoting JS all the time! God gave you a brain--try using it. Most of what JS was saying was to try to get his followers to blindly follow him and not question--which is the techique of most charismatic leaders--"don't question me, just blindly follow, or else God will get you! Because if you question me, you might find 'chinks' in my armour, and we can't have that, can we?" Quote
Guest Starsky Posted February 22, 2004 Report Posted February 22, 2004 Originally posted by Cal@Feb 22 2004, 12:18 PM Peace---why don't you think for yourself, instead of quoting JS all the time! God gave you a brain--try using it. Most of what JS was saying was to try to get his followers to blindly follow him and not question--which is the techique of most charismatic leaders--"don't question me, just blindly follow, or else God will get you! Because if you question me, you might find 'chinks' in my armour, and we can't have that, can we?" When I am defending JS....his works through God are pleanty good enough, if not the best possible source. Quote
Cal Posted February 22, 2004 Report Posted February 22, 2004 JS said it, so it must be true. Why? because JS said it was. IOW My mommy is a genious--I know she is because she said so. Quote
Guest Starsky Posted February 22, 2004 Report Posted February 22, 2004 Originally posted by Cal@Feb 22 2004, 12:22 PM JS said it, so it must be true. Why? because JS said it was. IOW My mommy is a genious--I know she is because she said so. Again you prove you haven't got the aid of the Holy Ghost. Try it .... you'll like it. Quote
Cal Posted February 22, 2004 Report Posted February 22, 2004 Al contrare---I have plenty of aid from MY Holy Ghost. I don't want the aid of YOURS--he tells lies! Quote
Guest Starsky Posted February 22, 2004 Report Posted February 22, 2004 Originally posted by Cal@Feb 22 2004, 12:27 PM Al contrare---I have plenty of aid from MY Holy Ghost. I don't want the aid of YOURS--he tells lies! Well if that is how you see it, why do you come here.?? Just to read all things you consider lies? Is that healthy in your way of thinking?For us who know these things are true, it is very healthy, so itis wise for us to come and renew our strength and understanding of those truths...but for you....It just doesn't make sense...But in case you take this as a shewing off....I state again....you are <span style=\'font-family:Geneva\'>Welcome Welcome! Quote
Cal Posted February 22, 2004 Report Posted February 22, 2004 I really don't need your WELCOME, WELCOME. By the way, who are you, the QUEEN of the WELCOMING COMMITTEE? Quote
Guest Starsky Posted February 22, 2004 Report Posted February 22, 2004 Okay...I get it...LOL you are really ignorant. And I don't mean that as a name calling thing...just a STATE OF BEING. First if I say that you should try something that would be uplifting to you and your beliefs...you tell me I am telling you that you aren't welcome here....then when I state plainly that you are welcome in my opinion....since it is me you are talking with and accusing....I am told I think I am the queen of welcome...you really are messed up. Quote
Cal Posted February 22, 2004 Report Posted February 22, 2004 Hey--get a little sense of humor! By the way, just because something is UPLIFTING to YOU doesn't mean it is uplifting to everybody. However, UPLIFTING is one thing and historically TRUE is another. To each his own, sis! Quote
Tr2 Posted February 22, 2004 Report Posted February 22, 2004 Well maybe you have to have a deeper background to see what I found there to be validating.If so, I can't help you until you do some more studying. Really, knowledge is enlarging in your understanding.I am asking you to explain to me why that article proves the BoM true. Connect the dots for me. By refusing to connect those dots you are indeed proving that you do not know what you're talking about. If you know what you're talking about, then show me. Quote
Guest Starsky Posted February 22, 2004 Report Posted February 22, 2004 Originally posted by Cal@Feb 22 2004, 12:58 PM Hey--get a little sense of humor! By the way, just because something is UPLIFTING to YOU doesn't mean it is uplifting to everybody. However, UPLIFTING is one thing and historically TRUE is another. To each his own, sis! MY POINTS :) EXACTLY! Quote
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