The Pledge Of Allegiance

[Guest MrsS]

You may have already seen this short video, but it is so outstanding, well worth another look.

It is also worth passing on to others. Turn up your volume and click below.

by Red Skeleton, 1969.

http://patriotfilesannex.org/Pledge.htm

[Palerider]

This is very good......Rush has played this several times on his radio show over the years....

[Winnie G]

I loved that,

I have sent the link to everyone I know.

[begood2]

You may have already seen this short video, but it is so outstanding, well worth another look.

It is also worth passing on to others. Turn up your volume and click below.

by Red Skeleton, 1969.

http://patriotfilesannex.org/Pledge.htm

Mrs. S,

Thank you for sharing the Pledge of Allegiance with Red Skeleton...it was great. :)

[Dr T]

Did he leave out "Under God" in his recitation?

Dr. T

[begood2]

Did he leave out "Under God" in his recitation?

Dr. T

Dr. T,

Click on the link that Mrs. S gave....it only takes a few minutes to hear the whole thing. It is interesting the way he recites it.

[Guest MrsS]

Did he leave out "Under God" in his recitation?Dr. T

When his teacher was reciting the Pledge, the "Under God" was not in it. Later on, it was added. Red Skeleton did this in 1969. By then the "Under God" was added. What really impressed me, is Red's statement about wouldn't it be sad if people saw the "Under God" as a prayer, and banned it from school. Well, they did and it is now banned from schools.

I think we should kick Political Correctedness(is that a word ) right out of the United States and put the Pledge of Allegiance right back into ALL of our Public and Private Schools.

[Guest bizabra]

I was actually taught the Pledge WITHOUT the "under God" insertion by my very old 1st grade teacher back in 1967. I remember learning it, and remember specifically the line ". . . . .one nation, indivisible. . . ", Mrs. Cook explained what the word indivisible meant and I remember really understanding the significance.

Then, when I went to the grade school (4th through 6th) I was actually puzzled that the words "under God" were now added. It was weird to say them interposed between nation and indivisible. It seemed to me then that god was DIVIDING the nation.

Still seems true to me now.

[Dror]

I was actually taught the Pledge WITHOUT the "under God" insertion by my very old 1st grade teacher back in 1967. I remember learning it, and remember specifically the line ". . . . .one nation, indivisible. . . ", Mrs. Cook explained what the word indivisible meant and I remember really understanding the significance.

Then, when I went to the grade school (4th through 6th) I was actually puzzled that the words "under God" were now added. It was weird to say them interposed between nation and indivisible. It seemed to me then that god was DIVIDING the nation.

Still seems true to me now.

Indeed, I think people's concept of God has divided the nation from the beginning. For this reason the Republic was founded as a secular nation, so people of all religions (or lack thereof) could be included as full members of our society.

Also, I'm one of those odd ducks who refuses to pledge allegiance to the flag--it's a piece of cloth, for heaven's sake, albeit a beautiful symbol. I think it more appropriate to pledge support for the Constitution. It's ironic that there are those who would dispense with the Constitution to support the flag, by forbidding flag "desecration."

Dror

[john doe]

I was actually taught the Pledge WITHOUT the "under God" insertion by my very old 1st grade teacher back in 1967. I remember learning it, and remember specifically the line ". . . . .one nation, indivisible. . . ", Mrs. Cook explained what the word indivisible meant and I remember really understanding the significance.

Then, when I went to the grade school (4th through 6th) I was actually puzzled that the words "under God" were now added. It was weird to say them interposed between nation and indivisible. It seemed to me then that god was DIVIDING the nation.

Still seems true to me now.

Interesting, since the change to "under God" was instituted in 1954 by President Eisenhower. Maybe your school was just really slow to make changes?

Also, I'm one of those odd ducks who refuses to pledge allegiance to the flag--it's a piece of cloth, for heaven's sake, albeit a beautiful symbol.

So, do you join in at the part where it states "and to the republic for which it stands", or do you just skip the pledge altogether?

[Dror]

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I was actually taught the Pledge WITHOUT the "under God" insertion by my very old 1st grade teacher back in 1967. I remember learning it, and remember specifically the line ". . . . .one nation, indivisible. . . ", Mrs. Cook explained what the word indivisible meant and I remember really understanding the significance.

Then, when I went to the grade school (4th through 6th) I was actually puzzled that the words "under God" were now added. It was weird to say them interposed between nation and indivisible. It seemed to me then that god was DIVIDING the nation.

Still seems true to me now.

Interesting, since the change to "under God" was instituted in 1954 by President Eisenhower. Maybe your school was just really slow to make changes?

Also, I'm one of those odd ducks who refuses to pledge allegiance to the flag--it's a piece of cloth, for heaven's sake, albeit a beautiful symbol.

So, do you join in at the part where it states "and to the republic for which it stands", or do you just skip the pledge altogether?

I skip it altogether. Don't get me wrong, though. I do like the flag. It serves as a great symbol and a rallying point, much as flags used to be (I have no idea if they still are, not being a military person) used in battle, hence the scriptural references to standards and ensigns. To me, it's just a rule of law vs. veneration of object thing.

I also refuse to stand up when an apostle or the president of the Church walk in. How many times in the scriptures have prophets told people not to worship them because they are merely fellow servants of God? One time I was attending a fireside at the BYU Marriott Center with Elder M. Russell Ballard as the speaker. When Elder Ballard came in, I remained seated, as did 3 or 4 of my friends who were with me. Boy, did people give us odd looks! However, I felt vindicated when Elder Ballard then proceeded to mildly chastise the people, telling them they should not stand up when he walks in the room! One of my friends and I just grinned at each other.

It's not that those things are evil or the people who do them are sinning, or anything like that. I just think people don't always think about what such things mean. They are meant as gestures of respect, and respect is good, but the deeper meaning of such actions as pledging allegiance or standing (or kneeling, for that matter) is a bit stronger than what is intended.

I, for one, often forget to kneel for prayer. I mean I do it sometimes, but probably not often enough. Kneeling is a profoundly symbolic thing, and I think that is why the Brethren encourage us to pray on our knees regularly. We also remove our (regular) shoes upon entering the temple, just as Moses did before the burning bush, yet how often do we really think about what it means?

Sorry I went off on a tangent!

Dror

[matilda]

Thank you, I loved hearing it.

I am a HUGE fan of Red Skelton. When I was little I would try and be funny like him spreading Peanut butter and a piece of bread and making it believable like he did with his skits.

I also loved it when just before he died he asked that all comedians try to make people laugh by not belittling anyone in a joke just to get laughs and you don't need to swear to make it sound funny. He then pleaded for them to not take the Lords name in Vain by saying it all the time when talking. Which I wish they wouldn't do that on tv either.

[cara]

Thank you for putting this link on. I loved it. My brother has been in Iraq for a majority of the war and therefore the pledge has new found meaning for me. I am a teacher in a headstart. My supervisor was shocked that my three years olds can each recite the pledge. The think is she had question in her voice as to why I was having three year olds say it. They each know it by heart and I hope that it remains with them for the rest of their lives of who we are and what we stand for as a nation. I will continue to have my students say it every single day.