Guest mysticmorini Posted July 27, 2011 Report Posted July 27, 2011 The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints is a restoration (or atleast that is what we believe) of the primitive Church established by Christ, “ We believe in the same organization that existed in the Primitive Church, namely, apostles, prophets, pastors, teachers, evangelists, and so forth.” – A of F 1:6We also believe in continuing revelation, “We believe all that God has revealed, all that He does now reveal, and we believe that He will yet reveal many great and important things pertaining to the Kingdom of God.” – A of F 1:9 So my question is, in the modern church where does the restoration end and modern revelation step in?One example I can think of that has been discussed extensively is the words of wisdom. Clearly a modern revelation as we know that Jesus and his apostles drank wine. Share your examples and thoughts. Quote
slamjet Posted July 27, 2011 Report Posted July 27, 2011 Maybe it's because I'm waiting for breakfast to kick in, but this question doesn't make sense to me. Quote
Guest mysticmorini Posted July 27, 2011 Report Posted July 27, 2011 What doesn't make sense, I'd be glad to try to explane it better. Quote
slamjet Posted July 27, 2011 Report Posted July 27, 2011 The question reads like what the timeline is. Restoration was this period, then modern revelation takes over. I always understood that the New Testament Church was full of modern revelation for it's time, thus the restored church is a continuation of that. I guess I'm trying to understand where you see one ended and one began? Quote
Guest mysticmorini Posted July 27, 2011 Report Posted July 27, 2011 Instead of thinking of it as a timeline think about the doctrine / ordinances / practices we have now versus what has been around since the New Testament church. Ex. The sacrament was instituted by Christ, the words of wisdom was a modern revelation. Quote
Dravin Posted July 27, 2011 Report Posted July 27, 2011 (edited) Maybe it's because I'm waiting for breakfast to kick in, but this question doesn't make sense to me.Basically he's asking what do we have in common with the New Testament Church (or previous dispensations), and what is different because of modern revelation. Edited July 27, 2011 by Dravin Quote
Jason_J Posted July 27, 2011 Report Posted July 27, 2011 Well one example I can think of is regarding church organization. For example, having apostles and prophets can be seen as a restoration of ancient offices/functions found in the primitive Church that were lost. In contrast, having different quorums of the Seventy, etc. are examples of continuing revelation to a growing worldwide Church. Quote
slamjet Posted July 27, 2011 Report Posted July 27, 2011 Don't know who Darvin is, but I get it now. Quote
Dravin Posted July 27, 2011 Report Posted July 27, 2011 Don't know who Darvin is, but I get it now.He's my lessor known twin, he never posts here but people address posts to him from time to time for some reason. :) Quote
spamlds Posted July 27, 2011 Report Posted July 27, 2011 In the fullest sense, the Restoration is complete when the Ancient of Days (Adam/Michael) presents the keys of the kingdom back to Christ, its king at Adam-ondi-Ahman. At that moment, all the keys from all prior dispensations will have been returned by the stewards who possessed them to Christ who bestowed them. Continuing revelation continues to guide us to a fullness of the Restoration. Parts of that process yet to be completed, which require revelation (inasmuch as we now understand or inasmuch has been revealed) include the gathering of the saints to places of refuge, the return of the lost 10 tribes of Israel, the sending out of 144,000 missionaries, and the building of the New Jerusalem, in particular. Quote
Guest gopecon Posted July 28, 2011 Report Posted July 28, 2011 Restoration was the return of the priesthood keys, ordinances, and the basic structure of the Church. Revelation is how the Church continues to be run. Bishops seek that revelation when callings are issued. Home teachers seek revelation to help the less active families they have been called to help. There have been other big examples of revelation (the entire D&C) as well, but it is an ongoing stream of revelation that helps to keep the Church on the right path. Quote
Blackmarch Posted July 28, 2011 Report Posted July 28, 2011 The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints is a restoration (or atleast that is what we believe) of the primitive Church established by Christ, “ We believe in the same organization that existed in the Primitive Church, namely, apostles, prophets, pastors, teachers, evangelists, and so forth.” – A of F 1:6We also believe in continuing revelation, “We believe all that God has revealed, all that He does now reveal, and we believe that He will yet reveal many great and important things pertaining to the Kingdom of God.” – A of F 1:9 So my question is, in the modern church where does the restoration end and modern revelation step in?One example I can think of that has been discussed extensively is the words of wisdom. Clearly a modern revelation as we know that Jesus and his apostles drank wine. Share your examples and thoughts.We don't know exactly- things that are lost are not known. Quite possibly the saving ordinances performed in the temple by proxy are modern.. altho there a few things that hint that such may not be the case.Most likely what would be new is just some of the fine points on how things are performed. Quote
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