Guest Posted August 19, 2011 Report Posted August 19, 2011 Threads I post on don't have a laugh button. I'm rather sensitive about being laughed at. Quote
Dravin Posted August 19, 2011 Report Posted August 19, 2011 Personal attack!!!!! Mods?!Wait? You're requesting a personal attack from the Mods? Well if you want...Your mother was a hamster and your father smelt of elderberries! Quote
Vort Posted August 19, 2011 Report Posted August 19, 2011 Wait? You're requesting a personal attack from the Mods? Well if you want...Your mother was a hamster and your father smelt of elderberries!That wasn't very nice. But at least you're not laughing at me. Quote
Dove Posted August 19, 2011 Report Posted August 19, 2011 bcguy, I've noticed you haven't posted since you first started this thread. I'm hoping you are okay and that you're feeling better. I agree with the other threads about the profound sense of loneliness that at times is felt. I have felt this often, even though I am a member of the LDS church. I have related one experience I have had concerning this on another thread. Please let us know how you are doing, and if there is anything we can do to support you right now... Dove Quote
KitCarson Posted August 25, 2011 Report Posted August 25, 2011 The Church has always emphasized that financial help comes from FAMILY FIRST. Then the Bishop can be asked for church help. However, the LDS welfare system is very specific about how it is to be administered. It is meant to be a temporary solution and recipients are expected to DO something to receive it. In Utah, they have Deseret Industries where even disabled people and teens in wheelchairs are able to work. In places away from Utah it's a bit harder to find "work" for church welfare recipients. But LDS Welfare is NOT intended to be a "hand out". Just because a family NEEDS doesn't mean they qualify for church help. If the individual is permanently and totally disabled, then Social Security Disability is available to him. If Social Security has determined he does not qualify, the government has determined he can work. So obviously the church will also feel that he should be able to work. The wife lost her job. Is she looking for a new job? How long has this situation been going on? Take any job, menial or not, and the church is more likely to help the family get back on its feet financially. Quote
Guest mormonmusic Posted September 24, 2011 Report Posted September 24, 2011 this reminds me of a comment someone once said "I pay my tithe so that the Church can pay my bils" :)Frankly, I think this is a pretty thoughtless comment that completely misrepresents what I said. I was talking about the CHURCH'S should-be attitude toward their members. Not the member's should-be attitude toward the Church. If the Church lets the tie go to the runner (the member), and the members give without expecting anything in return, then it works great. As soon as one side thinks more of itself than the other side, it gets messy. Quote
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