Science without religion is lame; religion without science is blind.

[The_Phoenix]

I do not disagree, I just think that basically the same argument could be made about the ark. When we remember that the understanding of those who were writing in ancient times was more limited than the understanding we have now, it is easier to take "literal" writings with a grain of salt.

I would not disagree. BTW, I believe the Biblical account, I just have no proof.

[spamlds]

It must be kept in mind that, just like there is true religion and false religion, there is true science and false science. Not all science is true, just as not all religion is true. Truth can be discovered by science and by personal revelation.

Much science today is politically-driven claptrap. Global warming might be true or it might not be. The science on it has been so corrupted by politics, we'll never know for sure. Meanwhile the real global warming that people should be concerned about is when the earth shall be burned at Christ's coming.

Sciences like E-CAT technology will have to jump through all kinds of political hoops, not just scientific ones. Imagine if that technology is, as it appears, producing a reliable, reproducible, cold fusion that emits very little radiation, provides clean energy, and is small enough to fit in a car or power your house. Imagine the political fallout from such a technology. The George Soros-type guys would want to control and exploit it for profit. Oil-producing nations would have their entire economies collapse and would probably start a war. Small African villages could be freed from the paternalistic policies of the post-colonial powers. It could turn the whole world upside down.

The result from all those intrigues impacts science, it's funding, who controls and regulates it, etc. Thus, in our politically-driven era, science is not free anymore any more than Christianity was under the Holy Roman Empire.

The dichotomy between religion and science is a red herring. True science is true religion and vice versa. We are just accustomed to living in a time where both are relatively scarce.

[JudoMinja]

I would not disagree. BTW, I believe the Biblical account, I just have no proof.

That is because we have not yet discovered "Hammer-space"! which is of course what God used to make all the animals fit on the ark!

Not sure what I'm talking about? Yeah... It's a pretty nerdy reference. I'm talking about anime characters with huge weapons (often a hammer or sword) that they just pull out of thin air. Where is the weapon before it appears? In "hammer-space" -a rip in time and space just over their shoulder from which they can place an infinite amount of infinitely large materials, much like a bag of holding. We'll discover it with science eventually... and then the ark will make sense.

[RMGuy]

For me, it's not about the flood, or the earth standing still, or the Israelites crossing over on dry ground - it's merely a question of the existence of God Himself - because if God exists, then anything is possible.

-RM

[RMGuy]

That is because we have not yet discovered "Hammer-space"! which is of course what God used to make all the animals fit on the ark!

I've always been curious.

How do you think Noah got the animals to the Ark...do you think he actually went North and came back with a couple of polar bears on a leash, hand selected each of the 116,000 known species of snails, then headed south to pick up a couple of tapirs, and an anaconda or two? Alternately, I guess all the animals could have decided to take a road trip to Noah's house, but you would think that the neighbors might have gotten curious when the hippos and elephants showed up with their tickets waiting to board. I mean, I don't know about you, but about that time I might have begun to think there was something to what this Noah guy was saying.

-RM

All in good fun folks, all in good fun.