Guest Monica Posted December 24, 2006 Report Posted December 24, 2006 http://behavioralhealth.typepad.com/markha...hristian_p.html Quote
StrawberryFields Posted December 24, 2006 Report Posted December 24, 2006 Ex. 20: 1-20 1 And God aspake all these bwords, saying, 2 aI am the bLord thy cGod, which have brought thee out of the land of dEgypt, out of the house of ebondage. 3 Thou shalt have ano other bgods before me. 4 Thou shalt anot make unto thee any bgraven cimage, or any likeness of any thing that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth: 5 Thou shalt not abow down thyself to them, nor serve them: for I the LORD thy God am a bjealous God, cvisiting the diniquity of the efathers upon the fchildren unto the third and fourth generation of them that ghate me; 6 And shewing amercy unto thousands of them that love me, and keep my bcommandments. 7 Thou shalt not take the aname of the LORD thy God in bvain; for the LORD will not hold him cguiltless that dtaketh his name in vain. 8 Remember the asabbath day, to keep it bholy. 9 aSix days shalt thou blabour, and do all thy work: 10 But the seventh day is the sabbath of the LORD thy God: in it thou shalt not do any work, thou, nor thy son, nor thy daughter, thy manservant, nor thy maidservant, nor thy cattle, nor thy astranger that is within thy gates: 11 For in asix days the LORD made heaven and earth, the sea, and all that in them is, and rested the seventh day: wherefore the LORD bblessed the sabbath day, and challowed it. 12 ¶ aHonour thy bfather and thy cmother: that thy ddays may be elong upon the fland which the LORD thy God giveth thee. 13 Thou shalt not akill. 14 Thou shalt not commit aadultery. 15 Thou shalt not asteal. 16 Thou shalt not bear afalse witness against thy bneighbour. 17 Thou shalt not acovet thy neighbour’s house, thou shalt not covet thy neighbour’s bwife, nor his manservant, nor his maidservant, nor his ox, nor his ######, nor any thing that is thy neighbour’s. 18 ¶ And all the people asaw the thunderings, and the lightnings, and the noise of the trumpet, and the mountain smoking: and when the people bsaw it, they cremoved, and stood afar off. 19 And they said unto Moses, Speak thou with us, and we will hear: but let not God aspeak with us, lest we die. 20 And Moses said unto the people, aFear not: for bGod is ccome to dprove you, and ethat his fear may be before your faces, that ye sin not. http://scriptures.lds.org/en/search?type=r...&show=footnotesAbove link w/ footnotes Quote
Jason Posted December 24, 2006 Report Posted December 24, 2006 http://behavioralhealth.typepad.com/markha...hristian_p.htmlMaybe because they're generally irrelavent. Quote
prisonchaplain Posted December 25, 2006 Report Posted December 25, 2006 It's being said that we are now living in a "post-literate" society. In pre-literate societies, most people have never learned to read. In literate societies, of course, they do read. In our society, we know how to read, but we don't. I know the COJCLDS is more intentional on this matter (kudos!), but in many Christian churches, adult converts may never learn the denomination's doctrines in a systematic matter. I recently taught a course on our 16 fundamentals, and many of the adults said they had never studied them. Me thinks it's not that doctrine is irrelevent, but rather that we've become "reactionary learners"--we learn when we must, and we prefer it happen in an entertaining (i.e. multimedia) way. Quote
StrawberryFields Posted December 25, 2006 Report Posted December 25, 2006 It's being said that we are now living in a "post-literate" society. In pre-literate societies, most people have never learned to read. In literate societies, of course, they do read. In our society, we know how to read, but we don't.I know the COJCLDS is more intentional on this matter (kudos!), but in many Christian churches, adult converts may never learn the denomination's doctrines in a systematic matter. I recently taught a course on our 16 fundamentals, and many of the adults said they had never studied them.Me thinks it's not that doctrine is irrelevent, but rather that we've become "reactionary learners"--we learn when we must, and we prefer it happen in an entertaining (i.e. multimedia) way.I believe this to be very true. Have you ever looked at the surveys on myspace? There is a area where they list the books they like. Most have a comment there that says I DON'T READ! Quote
BenRaines Posted December 25, 2006 Report Posted December 25, 2006 Does it matter? I thought that the 10 commandments were superseded by the 2. Love God Love thy neighbor as thyself. Ben Raines Quote
Jason Posted December 26, 2006 Report Posted December 26, 2006 Does it matter? I thought that the 10 commandments were superseded by the 2.Love GodLove thy neighbor as thyself.Ben RainesBen understands. Merry Christmas Ben! Quote
Outshined Posted January 1, 2007 Report Posted January 1, 2007 Does it matter? I thought that the 10 commandments were superseded by the 2.Love GodLove thy neighbor as thyself.Ben RainesIf the ten didn't matter, Christ would not have repeated them on the Sermon on the Mount... Quote
BenRaines Posted January 1, 2007 Report Posted January 1, 2007 Maybe my point wasn't clear. The two encompass the ten. You cannot obey the two and disobey the ten. I think Jason got it. Ben Raines Quote
Outshined Posted January 1, 2007 Report Posted January 1, 2007 Actually, some may be able to rationalize breaking one of the ten while feeling that they have obeyed the two. The two do not "supercede" the ten; they are just the greatest commandments. If they did, Christ would not have wasted time repeating the ten. If you want to be legalistic, you just need one; love God. That should encompass everything else. And the ten commandments are certainly not irrelevant. Quote
sunny_surfer Posted January 7, 2007 Report Posted January 7, 2007 well that isnt to hard to believe since i can only remember about 4 or 3 myself Quote
Fiannan Posted January 7, 2007 Report Posted January 7, 2007 It would certainly help Americans to learn and obey the commandments. Let's see: 1) Though shall have no other Gods before me -- I guess that would mean not putting the state (or its teachings) above God and if people did that the liberties our Founding Fathers cherished would be safe. 2) No graven images -- I think it is safe to say that that would include ALL idol worship including money, social status, consumerism and materialism. Think of the toll these anti-Christian worshipping of worldly idols costs society. 3) Do not take the Lord's name in vain -- It would be nice not to see movies do this all the time and then see young people (especially females) trying to look cool and parroting drunken sailors. 4) Keep the sabbath day -- Can't say I am the best at this but it probably would do good for family unity. 5) Honor your parents -- This is the only commandment with a specific promise and that is that if you follow it your days will be long upon the land. Maybe the reason Euros and Americans of Euro descent are dying out is that they don't honor their parents or their heritage in general so sacrificing to keep it going (having children) seems too inconvenient. 6) Thou shall not kill -- interpreted as murder or taking innocent blood. Few people actually murder anyone, well, maybe with the exception of abortion. 7) Though shalt not commit adultery -- And by the spirit of the law also not fornication. If people only had sex with the person they were married to the rate of disease and other problems would greatly decrease. Just because something might be fun for the moment wickedness never brought happiness. 8) Do not steal -- Wouldn't it be nice to be able to not lock our doors on our houses or cars anymore? 9) Do not bear false witness -- Perhaps the ultimate betrayal of another human being. Think that would also include gossip. 10) Do not covet -- I know that the media's profits are based on it but the only thing coveting does is lead to crime or depression. Quote
BenRaines Posted January 7, 2007 Report Posted January 7, 2007 Nice points Finnian. That takes me to anohter thread that those that can afford to move to nicer places or neighborhoods do so that they can live like that. I live in Las Vegas, a very diverse community. In part of our city people live with bars on their windows and doors. In other areas there are gated communities with armed guards at the entry and patroling armed guards in the neighborhood. In my neighborhood we don't have an armed guard we just arm ourselves. True that if everyone kept the 10 commandments we would not need armed guards but then there would not be an opposition in all things. Ben Raines Quote
Guest ChristianHumphrey Posted January 9, 2007 Report Posted January 9, 2007 If ye have love in your heart..Actual love then you fulfill all 10 commandments.. 1.Though shall have no other God before me...Love God and dont worship anything else 2. no Graven image- for the most part in america it prob does mostly mean money not everyone is in america though..In the days it was given peeps worshipped Graven images Gods of wood and stone.. some even sacrifriced Children and Virgins to them 3. Do not take the Lords name in vain.. k so 1,2,and 3 are Love and respect your Father. 4. Keep the Sabbath day Holy..In order to keep the Sabbath day Holy you have to go to church and show your love for God and for each other. 5 Honor your parents.. Hmm sounds like 3 6. Thou shall not kill.. Love thine enemies dont kill thine enemy... 7.Thou shall not commit adultery.. I know adultery jus doesnt encompass marriage but u can alter the definition if u want but if you loved your wife you wouldnt commit adultery. 8.Do not steal.. If you loved your neighbor you wouldnt take his stuff in the first place.. 9..Do not bear false witness..If you love everyone why would you want to?? 10. Do not covet.. If you loved your neighbor you would give your stuff to him not desire his... Therefore as Christ said if you love Ye fulfill the commandments..BECAUSE if you love others then ye will not desire to do any evil whatsoever..The commandments while very important they do have a end in Christ..But anyhow everyone of us has broken the 10 commandments and more then likely every one of us will break em again..Thank God for repentance O and if you think you havent broken the 10 commandments then right now you are breaking 9 and bearing false witness to yourself..There are many commandments so many its endless..Everyone wants to make Yokes that bind each other why is that..."Tidings of Great comfort and of Joy was the song.." Quote
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