boyando Posted January 27, 2007 Report Posted January 27, 2007 I watched a documentary called "what the bleep do we know", about a month ago. If accurate, we can take everything that we learned in high school, about physics and toss it in the round file. As I was watching, I dismissed a lot of what these brainiac's had to say, as dribble designed to make them self's look smarter than all of us. But about two weeks after watching this documentary, I gave it more thought. I asked myself, is there a conflict with these theories and the Gospel of Jesus Christ.? With the exception of the intellectuals trying to explain what God would be like, I can not find conflict, between this science and my religion. I was hoping someone else has seen this documentary. Please don't go out and rent it. It has many scenes in it that have a strong sexual references that seems, to me, to be out of place. If any one has seen it, please let me know what you think - Your Friend - allmosthumble Quote
Guest bizabra Posted January 28, 2007 Report Posted January 28, 2007 This movie is not science. It is entertainment. Please read this link: http://skeptico.blogs.com/skeptico/2005/04...the_bleep_.htmlThere are more critiques of this film from the scientific communtiy. Please look for them. Also, please read up on JZ Knight. She is a charlatan. Quote
CrimsonKairos Posted January 29, 2007 Report Posted January 29, 2007 I live in the city JZ Knight lives in. I drive by her compound every time I leave or enter the city. Ramsters (as they're called...followers of JZ, who supposedly "channels" the spirit of the "Lemurian" warrior Ramtha) are kind of a joke around here. Between the copper-clad compound to stop the lizard-men who are coming to destroy us, and the bizarre "activities" that go on inside...yeah, she's a wacko. I remember hearing that she was adopted and raised by an LDS family. She's taken many aspects of our religion and woven them into her "religion." Stuff like have a garden, a two year food supply, etc... Anyway, I remember that documentary "What the @#&!# do we know" playing at the theater here in town. Never saw it, but if it has anything to do with Ramtha or JZ...well I can guess at the caliber of the ideas contained in it. Quote
Dr T Posted January 29, 2007 Report Posted January 29, 2007 Thank you for the link bizabra. :) I'll enjoy reading some of those. Dr. T Quote
Rosewood Posted January 29, 2007 Report Posted January 29, 2007 I saw it and I enjoyed it. I don't think of it as science though, just food for thought. Did anyone see the 3 part Nova series on the string theory? I really liked that one. Quote
boyando Posted January 31, 2007 Author Report Posted January 31, 2007 This movie is not science. It is entertainment. Please read this link: http://skeptico.blogs.com/skeptico/2005/04...the_bleep_.htmlThere are more critiques of this film from the scientific communtiy. Please look for them. Also, please read up on JZ Knight. She is a charlatan.bizabra;Thank you for reminding me of the stuff they try to slide past you.I still find some of the documentary interesting. Like the part were they claim to have a picture of an atom that is in two places at one time. That, to me, would mean that there is times when there is no time (pun intended). Of coarse with everything that I read, how can you know if they were not lying about having the picture.Thanks again - allmosthumble Quote
Guest bizabra Posted January 31, 2007 Report Posted January 31, 2007 You are welcome, Almost. I try to seek out all sides and read up on pro and con whenever I encounter something that strikes a chord in me like this movie did for you. Getting all caught up in the emotions that something evokes in us is nice, but it isn't the "truth". Advertisers use emotional hooks to prompt us to buy their stuff instead of someone else's stuff. But the emotion they evoke is not "truth". It is a tool to get us to buy their stuff. I use this principle a lot. I ignore the emotional response and do some research. Testimonials and anecdotes are not "proof" of anything except what the testifier "believes", which is not the same as a double-blind study or a body of evidence. I retain a skeptical POV, which insists on not trying to find a "science" that fits my beliefs, but in opening my mind to the idea that some of my "beliefs" are not science and not truth. This means I sometimes have to rethink my beliefs and adjust my POV to reality instead. One is better served by understanding that disease is caused by germs and not by evil spirits, even if ones religion teaches that evil spirits are the cause. When science offers reality in the form of penicillin as the "saviour", it is unwise to cling to the notion that prayers and exorcism will cure us. At that point, one either begins to view their religious beliefs as metaphor and not as "truth" or else one must give up the religion altogether. Esp. if the religion insists that it really is evil spirits and not unseen germs at all. Quote
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