"I found an update" thread. 1st one...NRA t-shirt suspension

[prisonchaplain]

In another string I bemoaned the lack of updates with so many human interest stories.

So, to go first, here's something of an update on the NRA t-shirt-wearing middle schooler:

Logan Banner - BOE to hire independent investigator over t shirt incident

So, if you find any updates to any current event or human interest story, post here.

[selek]

On that note,

Baby Sammy has been ordered to a third hospital for evaluation, and custody of the child returned to his parents.

The only two black marks in this case (IMO) is that per the judges order, 1) CPS will make periodic visits to assure themselves that all is well and 2) the parents are now under orders "to follow all medical advice".

The former seems to me to be a sop to CPS given that their allegations were utterly baseless and their handling of the case criminally incompetent.

The latter seems to me to be an unconscionable- and recklessly imprecise- violation of the parent's right to decide upon appropriate medical for their child.

[prisonchaplain]

selek,

What if the first hospital's doctor really did suspect abuse, and the parents were avoiding the investigating that the hospital was doing? Would that change our opinion of the apparent thugishness of CPS here?

[selek]

What if the first hospital's doctor really did suspect abuse

Then his license to practice medicine should be revoked, and he should be tendered for an immediate psychiatric evaluation.

There was never any evidence of abuse or neglect offered against the Nikolaevs. That nonsense didn't surface until after the press got involved in questioning CPS tactics.

According to the lawyer and the press, the doctors at Sutter had high praise for the Nikolaevs- right up until they removed their child from the hospital "without permission".

Remember, both Sutter Memorial hospital and CPS refused to release any details of the allegations- even to the couple's lawyer.

He (and they) sailed into that custody hearing blind- and still emerged with custody of the child.

If there were any credible evidence to suggest the parents were neglectful, abusive, or incompetant, then CPS would be crowing from the rooftops about their vindication, not mursing their wounds with "periodic visits".

[Anddenex]

On that note,

The only two black marks in this case (IMO) is that per the judges order, 1) CPS will make periodic visits to assure themselves that all is well and 2) the parents are now under orders "to follow all medical advice".

The judge allowing these irritates me.

[selek]

PC,

I understand what you're asking- and I appreciate your desire to find a "good faith" explanation on behalf of the doctors.

But if there were questions, they would have surfaced before CPS felt the need to justify its actions to the press.

There is no indication that this is the case, and on the other side of the ledger, there is ample precedence of CPS' reach exceeding its lawful mandates and limitation.

For the record, my own read on the situation is that the doctors and nurses at Sutter screwed up, and when the parents left, they did as they felt the law required and notified CPS.

In my opinion, it was CPS who screwed up and over-reacted by either ignoring or allowing the first officer's report (clearing the parents) to fall through the cracks, and then seizing the child at (rheotorical) gun-point without performing a proper investigation- or even CALLING the parents to get their side of the story.

I don't fault the hospitals or the police in this saga- both were fulfilling their legal obligations as best they understood them.

CPS, however, reacted rashly, imprudently, and in clear violation of the Constitution and applicable law.

There was NO due process (heck, there wasn't even a proper investigation), and the parents were both denied information about the charges alledged against them, and presumed guilty until proven innocent.

Edited April 30, 2013 by selek

[prisonchaplain]

It does appear that way, Selek--and you compile the details forcefully. Yet another story I look forward to an update on...

[Guest]

Here's one on Zimmerman:

George Zimmerman Waives 'Stand Your Ground' Hearing and Heads to Trial

[Guest]

Anybody still following this one?

Jodi Arias Trial To Come To An End Soon

[Guest]

I can't find a more recent one on the "step on Jesus" one:

Interview with professor at center of 'Jesus' debate at Florida Atlantic | Inside Higher Ed

[prisonchaplain]

I can't find a more recent one on the "step on Jesus" one:

Interview with professor at center of 'Jesus' debate at Florida Atlantic | Inside Higher Ed

Somebody is lying. Either the student was show-boating, to become a 15-minute celebrity, or this professor is covering his tracks. My intuition is that the student was truly outraged by the exercise itself, and may have gotten caught up in the attention he drew. My "what on earth?" radar first ticked when I read awhile back that the professor was a lifelong active Christian.