Forget-Me-Not Posted January 26, 2014 Report Posted January 26, 2014 I seldom let others see a poem I have not finished, but this one tells enough of a story that I thought I would. Ordinarily I write most of my poems in one sitting, but this one was already quite long and far from finished when I had other things to tend to and had to stop. Poem - unfinishedUpon a fair day long since past I wandered down the hill belowAnd stepping lightly on the pathBeyond where yonder heather growI felt the breeze upon my cheekWhile breathing deep of sea foam scentAnd saw the whales as they breachedAfar off and the waters rentThen sat I on the dampened shoreWith my bare feet thin caked with sandAnd spread the grasses by my sideTo pick the shells washed up in handThe gulls above they raised their criesWhile hovering on the air aloftWith waves beneath that gently rolledTo wet the sand and smooth it softThen off down toward the cliffs abreastI glimpsed him walking fast apaceHis head was bowed low to his chestA growth of beard upon his faceI wondered of this stranger tallWith cap of gray pulled o're his eyesWhere of he came in tattered clothesFrom down the shore neath fairest skiesI watched him pause beside a rockAnd then bend slowly to the groundAn object from his pocket broughtThen dug a hole and put it downAnd covered where his treasure layThen gently stood again to stareUpon the earth as if to bidA long farewell to one most fairThe shells I dropped from out my handAnd stood to watch him walk awayNot quickly as he'd come at firstBut slowly in the set of dayWatched I until he out of sightBeyond the jagged rocky cropIn thought I tarried longer yetWith wondering I could not make stopBut light by then was dim with eveSo to my cottage made my wayTo wait and see what I might findBeneath the earth another dayI put me water on to heatAnd then my evening supper spreadOf golden cheese and coddled milkAnd on my plate laid heavy breadI supped my fill and then did batheTo wash the sand from off my skinReclined to rest in water warmReflecting in the fire coal dimThat night to bed I finally creptBut slumber it did slip from meWith thoughts of he I'd seen that dayIntruding and were scarce to fleeFor days that followed life kept pullWhere labors of their burden layBut thoughts I could not keep withoutOf what he planted on that dayAnd too, of him, where had he goneWhen past the cliffs beyond my sightWhat place had he come traveling fromThere to return by dark of nightBut then upon an early mornWhen no work called to summon meI made my way down to the placeBeside the rock along the seaWence it had beckoned me for daysBut finally there I stood besideTo wonder what was hidden thereWithin the ground above the tideDown to my knees I dropped to kneelAnd gently moved the earth awayAnd there within the hole he'd dugFound I a small brown pouch did layI lifted it and then untiedThe cord that held it knotted tightReached in my fingers and withdrewAn object wrapped in linen white And when exposed twas sure mine eyesHad not before such beauty seenA brooch of shell that set in goldOf lace design and costly gleamWithin were found the purest shadesOf blue as that of sea and skyAtop, by labored carver's skillIn white and holding flowers nighBeheld a lady...That's as far as I got. When a friend read it she said, "Finish it! Finish it! I want to know how it ends!" At the time, though, I wasn't sure I wanted to know the ending, afraid it might end badly. I don't know what other people see in their mind as they write, but usually for me I begin a poem without having any idea where it will go and only find out as it unfolds before me. For, example, I did not see the man's face to know what he looks like, other than that he has a growth of beard. I don't know if I will see him again either, to find out. I also have no idea yet what the brooch meant to him or why he buried it.Because of certain elements to this poem, though, I suspect there may be subconscious meaning to it, so I decided to wait awhile before attempting to finish it. Quote
Ron65 Posted January 30, 2014 Report Posted January 30, 2014 We often find when writing poetry that we simply do not know the end. That for me, is what makes poetry so fascinating; it's a journey of discovery. However, it can happen the other way too; we can know the end and then try to write a beginning and a middle to take us to the end. I'll tell you something, if you don't finish your poem, it can nag you and your readers for quite a long time until you eventually do find an end for it. I wrote something similar last year. In was written in three parts and it was the third part that was written first; I then wrote the second part and finished by writing the first part. I published it on a poetry forum in the order I wrote them, which kept the reader's intrigued. It was about an old man who was seen sitting by the coast looking very solemn and sour and he eventually died. When part three was finished I then had to find out why he was so down. It turned out to be quite sad. I enjoyed your poem by the way, and as your friend said, you need to finish it. You can't keep us on a cliff hanger for too long. Quote
Forget-Me-Not Posted February 3, 2014 Author Report Posted February 3, 2014 That's very interesting, especially not knowing how other poet's stories unfold for them. Maybe I should try writing the ending of this one next, since I just don't want it to end sadly and I've been afraid it might. Then I can figure out what happened in between. I don't know if that will be easier or harder for me, though, since I've only ever written from the beginning onward to the end. Maybe I'll try it. :) Quote
Ron65 Posted February 4, 2014 Report Posted February 4, 2014 You can move forward in one of two ways. 1 - Continue from the end of the last write and progress towards the end; but as you write, your current feelings, mood, family and personal concerns etc., will probably, on a subconscious level, influence your thoughts and inner feelings that could lead you to an ending based on those influences, be it sad or happy. You say you are afraid it might end with a sad note; a writer must never be afraid of how a poem might end; it can create problems for the writer that leads to writer's block or holds the poet back from progressing or completing a poem. 2 - if you ARE concerned about a possible sad ending and want to avoid it, then write the ending NOW, with a happy result, even if it’s just the last two lines or the last stanza, then try to work out/invent a pathway that leads to that happy ending. You current feelings and emotions as outlined in No 1 above will still become an influence in your writing, but as you write, you can have greater control over your subconscious influences based on the conscious ending you have created - if you see what I mean. If the original draft comes out with sad overtones, you can of course take control and change them once you see the results on paper or the computer screen. Write from the heart and then make light changes that suit the poems storyline that leads to the planned ending. Do you what I do sometimes, I do automatic writing where I simply let the subconscious mind pour out its feelings and thoughts onto paper with no control of what comes out (within he bounds of moral acceptance of course). I can quite quickly fill a full sheet of A4 with what might at first sight appear to be gibberish, but within that page of gibberish you will find little gems here and there that can be untilised within a poem. Let the mind go; be completely free from conscious thought and let the words flow. Write whatever your subconscious tells you to put onto paper. As an example, while writing this message I suddenly came out with - 'the man gave away his brooch but now regrets it and wanted to find a way to get it back without feeling awkward about it. 'How can I get it back he thought', 'steal it, plead insanity, explain how my heavy debts caused me to act irrationally and beg for the return of the brooch, get the dog to retrieve it, he loves toffees and refused to share it with the cat, the cat was offended so refused to help and told the neighbour'. Re-reading those words, some of it is plain gibberish, but within those few words there could be a gem of an idea, something sensible, logical and even powerful. Whenever I feel stumped, I find automatic writing extremely simulating for generating ideas for poems. On other occasions, which is an excellent way of helping us become more observant, I simply sit and write down everything I can see, hear and smell around me. The resultant notes then become a useful resource for ideas that can be used in future poems. Quote
Forget-Me-Not Posted March 10, 2014 Author Report Posted March 10, 2014 You can move forward in one of two ways. 1 - Continue from the end of the last write and progress towards the end; but as you write, your current feelings, mood, family and personal concerns etc., will probably, on a subconscious level, influence your thoughts and inner feelings that could lead you to an ending based on those influences, be it sad or happy. You say you are afraid it might end with a sad note; a writer must never be afraid of how a poem might end; it can create problems for the writer that leads to writer's block or holds the poet back from progressing or completing a poem. 2 - if you ARE concerned about a possible sad ending and want to avoid it, then write the ending NOW, with a happy result, even if it’s just the last two lines or the last stanza, then try to work out/invent a pathway that leads to that happy ending. You current feelings and emotions as outlined in No 1 above will still become an influence in your writing, but as you write, you can have greater control over your subconscious influences based on the conscious ending you have created - if you see what I mean. If the original draft comes out with sad overtones, you can of course take control and change them once you see the results on paper or the computer screen. Write from the heart and then make light changes that suit the poems storyline that leads to the planned ending. Do you what I do sometimes, I do automatic writing where I simply let the subconscious mind pour out its feelings and thoughts onto paper with no control of what comes out (within he bounds of moral acceptance of course). I can quite quickly fill a full sheet of A4 with what might at first sight appear to be gibberish, but within that page of gibberish you will find little gems here and there that can be untilised within a poem. Let the mind go; be completely free from conscious thought and let the words flow. Write whatever your subconscious tells you to put onto paper. As an example, while writing this message I suddenly came out with - 'the man gave away his brooch but now regrets it and wanted to find a way to get it back without feeling awkward about it. 'How can I get it back he thought', 'steal it, plead insanity, explain how my heavy debts caused me to act irrationally and beg for the return of the brooch, get the dog to retrieve it, he loves toffees and refused to share it with the cat, the cat was offended so refused to help and told the neighbour'. Re-reading those words, some of it is plain gibberish, but within those few words there could be a gem of an idea, something sensible, logical and even powerful. Whenever I feel stumped, I find automatic writing extremely simulating for generating ideas for poems. On other occasions, which is an excellent way of helping us become more observant, I simply sit and write down everything I can see, hear and smell around me. The resultant notes then become a useful resource for ideas that can be used in future poems.I'm sorry I have not gotten back to this. Thank you for these very helpful suggestions. I have never used automatic writing to spur thought or encourage inspiration in writing, at least not deliberately. I can see, though, how it could be very useful. I also liked the idea of sitting and writing down everything one sees and hears and smells, etc. I tend to naturally take in my surroundings using the senses, being especially aware of them when I'm out in nature, but writing them down would be very helpful, possibly therapeutic too.I especially liked your example of automatic writing with my poem, the first line you wrote in particular. With having suspected elements of my poem having subconscious meaning where my life is concerned, the moment I read that first line you shared, I felt it almost prophetic and since then it now seems more so.Anyway, thank you. I think now I might be able to begin to write more of the poem and think I'll be able to give it the ending I want for it, as well. :) Quote
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