Healing Power Of Forgiveness

[rosie321]

Couldn't help but notice Almom you were still on line and not getting to business.

From your post

i'm sharing with yall to avoid reading it and preparing my lesson. lol.............................ok so time to get to work.

Since I have the same propensity at times I thought I'd have a little fun with you and bring the lesson right to you.

You can run but you can't hide.

So what about the healing power of forgiveness everyone?

[Guest Yediyd]

Check out my blog entry for today and you will see why I am at a loss tgo answer this one right now.

[rosie321]

Check out my blog entry for today and you will see why I am at a loss tgo answer this one right now.

Yediyd thats too bad that things are going this way . I can only imagine how difficult it must be for your son to understand:( . I'll never fully understand why people do stuff like this myself . Maybe its just too hard for him to deal with. But then why leave you to do it all and leave your childrens heart broken

Maybe its better he is out of the picture and you can't contact him. It seems like he doesn't want to be reached or a part of their lives. Do you really want him around just to hurt the kids again? Maybe its for the best-a blessing in disguise? Even with your sons disability he'll probably start to understand and not blame himself for an incident that wasn't his fault. Maybe you guys can try and find some healing?

Praying for healing and peace to your house. Especially for your son who has enough challenges handling things

[Guest Yediyd]

Thanks Rosie...kinda too hurt to feel very thankfull right now...but I know God has a plan, I just hate it when man keeps messing it up!!!!

[rosie321]

Thanks Rosie...kinda too hurt to feel very thankfull right now...but I know God has a plan, I just hate it when man keeps messing it up!!!!

I can really appreciate that.

I've had some instances where I've been so angry I feel like I'm going to blow. I hate to see things going in unrighteous ways

Then eventually when the anger subsides I wind back at the start with the knowledge that Heavenly Father is there. He will protect and provide for all the needs. I just have to ask, listen, and wait (sometimes a very long time) but he will hear and answer.

I hate the valley of the shadow of death. Those places where you feel like a part is dying or dies. Where things seem out of control. Where you feel as though another has a place to cause harm. The anger and frustration is real and you wonder if you will ever make it through. Sadly there is a piece sometimes left behind in the valley. But hope comes in trust that the plans of God will not be frustrated. That He will be there and cause all things to work for good.

Hope that all the pain and anger you feel now will subside soon :)

[Guest Yediyd]

It's not about me....It's seeing my kids hurt that makes my blood boil.

[Dr T]

That does hurt Yed.

[Guest Yediyd]

That does hurt Yed.

Yup, see why I have to keep my sence of humor?

Luv ya Dr. T, but I really could care less if you have a cat or not!

[Dr T]

Good. So not owning one isn't an issue.

[Guest Yediyd]

Good. So not owning one isn't an issue.

Why don't you name the cat, "dog" and your problems will be over!

[Dr T]

That would be like you going next door and renaming your neighbor's son whatever you wanted. Or maybe like naming the pink unicorn in your back yard?

[Guest Yediyd]

Already did...call the neighbor kid, "stop that!!!" and the unicorn I call, "George".

[Dr T]

LOL.

I really liked N.Y. when I visited. It was dirty and gross in the subway but the people were really nice.

[Guest Yediyd]

LOL.

I really liked N.Y. when I visited. It was dirty and gross in the subway but the people were really nice.

Never been to NYC....Too scared!!!! I live in Upstate, NY...Right in the middle of the state. Liverpool is a suburb of Syracuse.

It's a great place...we have pink unicorns!

[Dr T]

All the T.V./Movies make me expect something that it wasn't. NOw, Boston and specifically Martha's Vineyard had very rude people and horrible drivers (honking, yelling, etc.)

[Gwen]

Couldn't help but notice Almom you were still on line and not getting to business.

From your post

i'm sharing with yall to avoid reading it and preparing my lesson. lol.............................ok so time to get to work.

Since I have the same propensity at times I thought I'd have a little fun with you and bring the lesson right to you.

You can run but you can't hide.

So what about the healing power of forgiveness everyone?

lol, thanks rosie, but i am only just seeing this because i did get to work. it was time to cook dinner. hahaha.....but i did eventually get to the lesson. still don't have the lesson for the sisters, but i think i'm finding the lesson for me (which i'm sure is far from over). they may have to suffer through what i needed if i run out of time. sigh, pray for the sisters. lol so, what i've been learning....

i'm still looking for the quote, but i recall a talk or ensign article that talked about the difference between acting and reacting. i keep comming back to that, if anyone finds it let me know. anyway.

i've never really thought about the feeling of anger, i've felt what i would call true anger 3 times in my life. the first i can't remember, though i should i was 12, but my mom was there the second time and said she had only seen that expresson on my face once before and told me the story. and boy do a lot of things make since knowing about it. the third would be this last week, the feelings have come and gone, but i do catorgorize them all as one experiance, all the same catylist, ongoing event.

i've been reflecting upon what anger is, for me more than anything, but in general as well. it's an odd emotion. serves a great purpose. and yet, it can and will destroy you if given the chance. i think my anger this time has become so great because i wasn't dealing with (acting on) the situation but feeling (reacting to) the situation. when i started listing everyone i was angry at, and trying to decide what i was angry at them for. what specifically did they do? does this merrit the level of anger i am feeling toward them? that kind of thing. i discovered how much of that anger was displaced. i wanted to make things right, not hurt anyone or make them pay, not retribution, but make it just, make it right. mercy can't rob justice right? lol there in lies the trap. the anger was such that i was ready to force things to be made right if needs be. the more i thought on what needed to be forced to justice; the easier it was to start drifting over the line, into retribution. so i've begun making a good list of what needs to be done, what i can do, and i'm trying to focus on what i can do, after that it needs to be let go; put in gods hands; whatever comes of it. ok so i know this is a lot easier to write than to actually do; it will be a challenge. knowing me, if i make the decision now, i should be able to do it, with some concious effort.

what i'm experiancing now is the culmination (i hope, but may be just a step on the road) of events that have been going on for over a yr. there is someone in my family's life that a little over a yr ago said if you don't do x for me (x was something good since wouldn't allow to be done) then we will destroy you, we will make you hurt, we will make you pay (monitary and otherwise), we will destroy your family. very angery and bitter ppl i desire to be nothing like. i can see in them how anger will run your life, rob you of happiness, how it becomes all you can think about. how it destroys. what has been going on the past week and i'm sure will continue to evolve over the next few weeks, is part of these efforts to destroy us.

if i allow myself to be angry, allow this to cause contention between my husband and i, to let myself get angry with my chruch leaders for not taking the action that i think they could and should, all the things that are/were happening; they win. they have done just what they promised. and i let them. the odd reality is no matter what they promised and what they do; the only one that can destroy my life is me. just as jesus when tempted by satan was given promises of the world, the world wasn't satan's to give, it was an empty promise; like every promise satan has ever made. it was an empty threat/promise. no one has power to destroy me but me. i have to let them. they have been winning this last week because i let them. no more. i don't hate them. i don't want them to hurt. i don't want retribution. i will seek justice, if justice is not served after all that is in my power to see to it, i will let it go. i will not hate those that i feel have failed to bring about justice. i'm sure i will mourn the temporary victory of satan, and it will take time and be a struggle. but i know i can, and i'm deciding now that i will. i will try to remember the words of my son in his prayer for our family. in the end it will be right.

from the talk by pres. faust; i was assigned:

Dr. Sidney Simon, a recognized authority on values realization, has provided an excellent definition of forgiveness as it applies to human relationships:

"Forgiveness is freeing up and putting to better use the energy once consumed by holding grudges, harboring resentments, and nursing unhealed wounds. It is rediscovering the strengths we always had and relocating our limitless capacity to understand and accept other people and ourselves."

thanks to those that care (and the ones that could care less and are not saying it) for letting me name my feelings here. not sure how much of the above makes since, it does to me, guess that's all that is important.

now to figure out what to say in rs and make it make since. lol

[rosie321]

lol, thanks rosie, but i am only just seeing this because i did get to work. it was time to cook dinner. hahaha.....but i did eventually get to the lesson. still don't have the lesson for the sisters, but i think i'm finding the lesson for me (which i'm sure is far from over). they may have to suffer through what i needed if i run out of time. sigh, pray for the sisters. lol so, what i've been learning....

i'm still looking for the quote, but i recall a talk or ensign article that talked about the difference between acting and reacting. i keep comming back to that, if anyone finds it let me know. anyway.

Handling Lifes Unpredictable Situations by Terry Smith Ensign December 1988

Learning to Teach as Jesus Taught: A parents point of view Ensign September 1974

Our Actions Determine our Character Wayne Peterson Liahona 2002

May I Have this Dance (directed toward the youth but good by Brad Wilcox New Era August 1979 & New Era, Oct 1991, Q&A section pg 17

Sorry they are not APA or MLA style :)

i've never really thought about the feeling of anger, i've felt what i would call true anger 3 times in my life. the first i can't remember, though i should i was 12, but my mom was there the second time and said she had only seen that expresson on my face once before and told me the story. and boy do a lot of things make since knowing about it. the third would be this last week, the feelings have come and gone, but i do catorgorize them all as one experiance, all the same catylist, ongoing event.

i've been reflecting upon what anger is, for me more than anything, but in general as well. it's an odd emotion. serves a great purpose. and yet, it can and will destroy you if given the chance. i think my anger this time has become so great because i wasn't dealing with (acting on) the situation but feeling (reacting to) the situation. when i started listing everyone i was angry at, and trying to decide what i was angry at them for. what specifically did they do? does this merrit the level of anger i am feeling toward them? that kind of thing. i discovered how much of that anger was displaced. i wanted to make things right, not hurt anyone or make them pay, not retribution, but make it just, make it right. mercy can't rob justice right? lol there in lies the trap. the anger was such that i was ready to force things to be made right if needs be. the more i thought on what needed to be forced to justice; the easier it was to start drifting over the line, into retribution. so i've begun making a good list of what needs to be done, what i can do, and i'm trying to focus on what i can do, after that it needs to be let go; put in gods hands; whatever comes of it. ok so i know this is a lot easier to write than to actually do; it will be a challenge. knowing me, if i make the decision now, i should be able to do it, with some concious effort.

what i'm experiancing now is the culmination (i hope, but may be just a step on the road) of events that have been going on for over a yr. there is someone in my family's life that a little over a yr ago said if you don't do x for me (x was something good since wouldn't allow to be done) then we will destroy you, we will make you hurt, we will make you pay (monitary and otherwise), we will destroy your family. very angery and bitter ppl i desire to be nothing like. You can ask HF for protection and aide. They don't have more power that what he has. Although don't expect things to get better at the snap of a finger. there is the slight time differential and if things are in really bad shape it might take awhile. Pull away from the evil (still act in love). Put safeguards in place when being around them. Really consider how much do you have to be around them? Are there other ways of operating without them? i can see in them how anger will run your life, rob you of happiness, how it becomes all you can think about. how it destroys. what has been going on the past week and i'm sure will continue to evolve over the next few weeks, is part of these efforts to destroy us. Dont let it Claim the victory. Look who's on your side!

if i allow myself to be angry, allow this to cause contention between my husband and i, to let myself get angry with my chruch leaders for not taking the action that i think they could and should, all the things that are/were happening; they win. they have done just what they promised. and i let them. the odd reality is no matter what they promised and what they do; the only one that can destroy my life is me. Stick your head up and keep going and doing right. Pray for much strength to do it. That will drive them even crazier :) To see that they did not suceed in their efforts. I think of the story of Joseph in the OT (israels son). He told his brothers after their evil act what you meant for evil God meant for good. That is the attitude to obtain.

just as jesus when tempted by satan was given promises of the world, the world wasn't satan's to give, it was an empty promise; like every promise satan has ever made. it was an empty threat/promise. no one has power to destroy me but me. i have to let them. they have been winning this last week because i let them. no more. i don't hate them. i don't want them to hurt. i don't want retribution. i will seek justice, if justice is not served after all that is in my power to see to it, i will let it go. i will not hate those that i feel have failed to bring about justice. i'm sure i will mourn the temporary victory of satan, and it will take time and be a struggle. but i know i can, and i'm deciding now that i will. i will try to remember the words of my son in his prayer for our family. in the end it will be right. The more you recognize the evil of sin and the price it has the more you will be on the right track and be conformed into the image of God. Satan will not win so don't hang around his paths or try to conform yourself to fit the demands of evil people. All the evil stuff people do will be called out and their will be an awful judgement Let your actions be things you want to be accountable for not what others do

from the talk by pres. faust; i was assigned:

Dr. Sidney Simon, a recognized authority on values realization, has provided an excellent definition of forgiveness as it applies to human relationships:

"Forgiveness is freeing up and putting to better use the energy once consumed by holding grudges, harboring resentments, and nursing unhealed wounds. It is rediscovering the strengths we always had and relocating our limitless capacity to understand and accept other people and ourselves."

thanks to those that care (and the ones that could care less and are not saying it) for letting me name my feelings here. not sure how much of the above makes since, it does to me, guess that's all that is important.

now to figure out what to say in rs and make it make since. lol I've enjoyed your naming of feelings. Its made me go back and find out how much work I still have to do. You gave me purpose

Made me think too, we sisters love to help and save the world its easy to forget saving ourselves and immediate family.

[Gwen]

so guess what. lol the mission pres and his wife were scheduled to speak in our branch today. i didn't know till i got there and was told that when they arried (maybe 5 min before i got there) they said they wanted to teach a combined priesthood / rs meeting. lol sigh, i guess the lesson wasn't for them anyway.

[rosie321]

lol Almom. It is funny to some degree even though you must have been disappointed at first to go through all that work.

The Lord does work in mysterious ways.

I enjoyed your study and absolutely loved the song on your other post:)

Have they asked you to do it another time?

[Gwen]

they didn't ask me to teach a different sunday yet, i'm sure they will. but i will be given that lesson, this one will just be missed (my branch is big to stay on schedule and skip rather than get off) i guess this one was just for me. i was kinda relived that i didn't have to teach it, it was kinda an emotional sunday for me, not sure i could have gotten through it. the mission pres and his wife said some very thought provoking things in their lesson. it's all good. just thought it was rather humorous. i would have never read it or a lot of other things that were very helpful had i thought i wouldn't have to teach. had a stake pres yrs ago that was always saying, "coinsidence was mearly the times when the lord choses to remain anonomus". this was definatly an odd line up of coinsidences. lol

[Guest Yediyd]

Coinsidence? I think not!!!!!