Memories

[USNationalist]

If i exsisted in the spirit world- i dont remember any of it. When i go the next stage of life will those memories return to me? Or will i lose the ones from this life to? Just curious

[Guest Starsky]

1 Cor. 13:

12 For now we see through a glass, darkly; but then face to face: now I know in part; but then shall I know even as also I am known.

Here we have the veil/see through a glass, darkly...and know in part

But when face to face with God we will know all, as well be known by all.

[USNationalist]

goodtimes- thank you

[Blessed]

This may sound a tad strange, but that is okay, I can deal with it.

I think sometimes I feel I remember or better word would be "sense" my pre-existence state. There are a few people in my life I feel I have known before I ever met them... very much connected with them in a way words cannot express. It has been an uncanny sensation to have these "sensing" but I think when we depart from here "all we be restored as it was at first."

I am kinda looking forward to that.

[Guest curvette]

I don't think there are any scriptures that expound on this. People who have NDE's though can remember their earthly experiences in perfect recall. I would think that we would if this earth is where we are subject to "the veil of forgetfulness." I guess we'll just have to wait and see.

[Jenda]

Originally posted by Blessed@Jan 21 2004, 06:35 AM

This may sound a tad strange, but that is okay, I can deal with it.

I think sometimes I feel I remember or better word would be "sense" my pre-existence state. There are a few people in my life I feel I have known before I ever met them... very much connected with them in a way words cannot express. It has been an uncanny sensation to have these "sensing" but I think when we depart from here "all we be restored as it was at first."

I am kinda looking forward to that.

Blessed, I know what you mean. There are people that I have met for the first time and feel like I know them from somewhere. And I have gone places for the first time and swear that I have been there before. The first time that this happened was when I was about 6.

[StrawberryFields]

I spent most of my time with my mom the month before she passed away last March. She began telling me things that she could see. I believe that the veil was becoming very thin for her during those last weeks. My mom was not afraid of the things in which she saw... they gave her comfort. Since that time I have come to feel that the reason many people go into a coma before the die is because of the things that they are in tune with.

[Guest Starsky]

I have had the same experiences...of deja'vu and feeling a connection with people I just met.

I once was having a problem with my bishop...who happened to have been our neighbor and friend for about 6 years before he became bishop... (what is it about leadership positions that change nice little puppies into ravening wolves? LOL ) Anyway...I started to fast and pray about this man...and the answer I received was interesting...

The Lord told me that this man and I had been very close in the pre-existence...and that most of those who were around me in this life, including this man and I, had promised to help each other and therefore were entered into each other's life's circle of associates.

Some of us really fail each other in a big way...Just think of all the times you have been rooked out of money, or cheated in relationships...gossipped into the ground...by those in your circle of life.

I was told that everyone around me was my stuardship....to whatever extent I could be a good samaritan. Just think of the parable of the Good Samaritan...it really makes you take a different look around you.

Anyway...I became more benevelent towards this bishop...as I began to see him as 'needy' spiritually, and a failure as my 'aid'... rather than an enemy. I also understood the teaching of the Lord...to pray for our enemies...because before they came down here...they were our friends.

We must help those who fail to live up to their pre-existent promises by praying for them and having compassion for them in their weaknesses.

[Guest curvette]

Originally posted by Peace@Jan 21 2004, 11:34 AM

The Lord told me that this man and I had been very close in the pre-existence...and that most of those who were around me in this life, including this man and I, had promised to help each other and therefore were entered into each other's life's circle of associates.

Anyway...I became more benevelent towards this bishop...as I began to see him as 'needy' spiritually, and a failure as my 'aid'... rather than an enemy. I also understood the teaching of the Lord...to pray for our enemies...because before they came down here...they were our friends.

We must help those who fail to live up to their pre-existent promises by praying for them and having compassion for them in their weaknesses.

That's a very interesting insight Peace. Thanks for sharing it. I wonder though...did he really fail you? Sometimes the events that make us much more strong spiritually are the seeming failures of others around us. Is this a failure to us or actually a blessing? Of course I don't know any of the particulars in your case--maybe he was weak. I've wondered often though if people in my life (and myself at times) have been compelled to make the wrong choice for the growth of others and ourselves. Maybe it is still always a failure, but God's infinite wisdom allows us to benefit from it anyway. It's an interesting topic.

[Blessed]

Originally posted by Strawberry Fields@Jan 21 2004, 10:55 AM

I spent most of my time with my mom the month before she passed away last March. She began telling me things that she could see. I believe that the veil was becoming very thin for her during those last weeks. My mom was not afraid of the things in which she saw... they gave her comfort. Since that time I have come to feel that the reason many people go into a coma before the die is because of the things that they are in tune with.

(tears) SF -- I lost my mom on Thanksgiving Day '03. Reading that... brought it (memories of her passing) back in a good way.

ty

[Guest Starsky]

Originally posted by curvette+Jan 21 2004, 12:04 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (curvette @ Jan 21 2004, 12:04 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin--Peace@Jan 21 2004, 11:34 AM

The Lord told me that this man and I had been very close in the pre-existence...and that most of those who were around me in this life, including this man and I, had promised to help each other and therefore were entered into each other's  life's circle of associates.

Anyway...I became more benevelent towards this bishop...as I began to see him as 'needy' spiritually, and a failure as my 'aid'... rather than an enemy. I also understood the teaching of the Lord...to pray for our enemies...because before they came down here...they were our friends.

We must help those who fail to live up to their pre-existent promises by praying for them and having compassion for them in their weaknesses.

That's a very interesting insight Peace. Thanks for sharing it. I wonder though...did he really fail you? Sometimes the events that make us much more strong spiritually are the seeming failures of others around us. Is this a failure to us or actually a blessing? Of course I don't know any of the particulars in your case--maybe he was weak. I've wondered often though if people in my life (and myself at times) have been compelled to make the wrong choice for the growth of others and ourselves. Maybe it is still always a failure, but God's infinite wisdom allows us to benefit from it anyway. It's an interesting topic.

In this particular case the Spirit bore witness that he had failed me. Instead of helping me...he hurt me and my family badly. I don't believe that was any influence from God..

However...as you say...all things work for the good of those who Love the Lord.

[StrawberryFields]

Originally posted by Blessed+Jan 21 2004, 01:21 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Blessed @ Jan 21 2004, 01:21 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin--Strawberry Fields@Jan 21 2004, 10:55 AM

I spent most of my time with my mom the month before she passed away last March. She began telling me things that she could see. I believe that the veil was becoming very thin for her during those last weeks. My mom was not afraid of the things in which she saw... they gave her comfort. Since that time I have come to feel that the reason many people go into a coma before the die is because of the things that they are in tune with.

(tears) SF -- I lost my mom on Thanksgiving Day '03. Reading that... brought it (memories of her passing) back in a good way.

ty

Blessed,

I am so sorry that you lost your mother as well.

This has not been an easy time for me. Please let me know if you want to talk.

I am happy that my post was able spark something good for you. :)

[StrawberryFields]

I can relate to what Peace is saying with her bishop. I currently have similar feelings in my situation.

Curvette is right too in that I am being forced to dig deeper into my soul for the tools to get me where I need to go.

[HalleysComet]

Kinda like Deja Vu yes?

[Behunin]

Originally posted by Strawberry Fields@Jan 21 2004, 01:55 PM

I can relate to what Peace is saying with her bishop. I currently have similar feelings in my situation.

Curvette is right too in that I am being forced to dig deeper into my soul for the tools to get me where I need to go.

Talk about coincidence

I am having a difficult time with the man who is Bishop in my ward. I am probably making a mistake, but I just stay away from him. When I go to get my recommend, I plan on seeing a counselor.

About remembering the pre exsistance, When I was about 8, my mother was disciplining me about something and I was angry with her. I remember thinking, "she can't treat me this way, I haven't always been a little kid". Then I remember thinking, "thats right, I have not always been a little kid". Anyway, just a small peek back to the life before.

[Guest lt]

I believe in live we make new ones as we go along...But if we are doing gods will as we go through life

he gives us the ability to see our past at different times in our life. When I met my husband I felt like I had known him an eternity, and that friendship and bond has always existed.

[Guest Starsky]

Originally posted by Behunin+Jan 21 2004, 09:42 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Behunin @ Jan 21 2004, 09:42 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin--Strawberry Fields@Jan 21 2004, 01:55 PM

I can relate to what Peace is saying with her bishop. I currently have similar feelings in my situation.

Curvette is right too in that I am being forced to dig deeper into my soul for the tools to get me where I need to go.

Talk about coincidence

I am having a difficult time with the man who is Bishop in my ward. I am probably making a mistake, but I just stay away from him. When I go to get my recommend, I plan on seeing a counselor.

About remembering the pre exsistance, When I was about 8, my mother was disciplining me about something and I was angry with her. I remember thinking, "she can't treat me this way, I haven't always been a little kid". Then I remember thinking, "thats right, I have not always been a little kid". Anyway, just a small peek back to the life before.

Cool! If we believe what we are taught about all being brothers and sisters, we have to realize we are being raised by our sisters and brothers. We are also raising our sisters and brothers..

I have often told my kids they were my brothers and sisters and I was not better than them, I was just put here before them and we are all trying to get through this experience the best we can. They seem to have more respect for us as parents when they see things in this perspective.