john doe Posted October 4, 2007 Report Posted October 4, 2007 <div class='quotemain'><div class='quotemain'>PS I really like the idea of eternal marriage, but currently I believe in Jesus as revealed in the Bible and it would be a bit of a stretch for me to get that doctrine from what I believe God has said on the subject.Just curious, what do (non-LDS) Christians believe that God said about eternal marriage, LDS temples and recommends on the subject? You may not know this, but LDS also proclaim a belief in the Jesus of the Bible. I wasn't aware that the Bible forbids eternal marriage.Firstly, I wasn't insinuating that LDS don't believe in the Jesus of the Bible but rather that you have extra scripture outside the Bible on which you can base your doctrines such as this. As a non LDS I'm not likely to read "The Pearl of Great Price" et al for doctrinal support. Non-LDS Christians is a fairly deverse group, I can't promise to speak for the whole lot. I can express what I was taught and believe. I shan't provide all the references but I can if you really want them I can supply them. (This is an LDS site, I'm here to learn about you "guys", not to expound my own views. But since you ask here goes(quickly)...)Looking mainly at Matt 22:23-30 esp 30. & Roms 7:2 on eternal marriage.Marriage is between a man and a woman for this life and does not continue into heaven. There is no need of procreation in heaven of any sort and gender differences cease to have any meaningful distinction. It isn't so much as the family links being diminished but being one in Christ we are bonded to God and all others in heaven in as meaningful way as we bonded to our spouses and families here.Jesus is the eternal high-priest in the order of Melchizedek, in the true temple in heaven. His people are now the temple on earth as he is always with them and even more so when two or three (or more) gather in His name. We sanctifiy any place by our presence, we are not sanctified by any place on earth.Now I know that the LDS have different interpretation on the verse on marriage above. I just not sure I could follow that interpretation as logical, but for LDS your interpretation has been inspired by your prophet(s).I have however been thinking on Matt 16. Where to me, Jesus indicates that profession of faith gives the keys to the kingdom. If that is the case then the power loosing and binding would become available to any who confessed Christ as Peter did. (I know people who believe that) So maybe some things could be bound in eternity (like marriage)? Anyway I never said that eternal marriage was forbidden in the Bible, just that holding it as a doctrine just from scripture without (prophetical inspired) specific interpretations of scripture like the LDS have would be a stretch.Thanks for your reply and clarification. Quote
Jason Posted October 4, 2007 Report Posted October 4, 2007 That's my whole point. You believe something, therefore you're right and everyone is wrong. Not only are they wrong, but they are stupid for believing what they do. We are all entitled to our own beliefs. I don't give a rat's ###### if you agree with me, but at least show some respect for what I believe. I've never once attacked what you believe. That's why you have no character.I'm not telling you what to believe, or that you can't believe it. I'm telling you that to assert your private interpretation upon everyone else is "not cool". Too insult your MIL because she interprets those passages differently is "not cool". Furthermore, when scholars across a broad religious and scholastic spectrum come to a concensus, and you decide to believe otherwise, that's one thing. But to assert that the historical understanding of a text isn't as good as your own makes you, the_jason, into a hypocrite by your own account. Quote
Laureltree Posted October 4, 2007 Report Posted October 4, 2007 Intelligence: is a property of mind that encompasses many related abilities , such as the capacities to reason, plan, solve problems, think abstractly, comprehend ideas and language, and learn . There are several ways to define intelligence . In some cases intelligence may include traits such as creativity, personality, character, knowledge, or wisdom . This does not include swearing.......... B) Let's behave like adults and use our college grammer... Or I will have to get out my PreK handsoap and do some double time with those mouths lol Just a thought ! Quote
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