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I believe it is most important in this day and age to testify to the resurrection of flesh and bones – that occupy space and take upon incorruptibly and immortality. The Resurrected L-rd – Jesus the Christ is a being of resurrected flesh and bones and is not dead.

The Traveler

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This is actually an interesting idea. People of flesh & bones living in the Celestial Kingdom. (Celestial - Latin meaning Heaven; and not the Kingdom of God on Earth). Which would conflict with the Terrestrial Kingdom (Earth or Living on Land). Which would conflict with the Telestial Kingdom (Light Kingdom).

It would not seem that we are returning from where we came.

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This is actually an interesting idea. People of flesh & bones living in the Celestial Kingdom. (Celestial - Latin meaning Heaven; and not the Kingdom of God on Earth). Which would conflict with the Terrestrial Kingdom (Earth or Living on Land). Which would conflict with the Telestial Kingdom (Light Kingdom).

It would not seem that we are returning from where we came.

'All flesh is not the same flesh: but there is one kind of flesh of men, another flesh of beasts, another of fishes, and another of birds. There are also celestial bodies, and bodies terrestrial: but the glory of the celestial is one, and the glory of the terrestrial is another. There is one glory of the sun, and another glory of the moon, and another glory of the stars: for one star differeth from another star in glory. So also is the resurrection of the dead.' (1 Cor. 15:39-42)

Telestial is actually quite thoughtful. The Greek 'tele' means distant or far. The Telestial Kingdom is the farthest from the presence of God. I am not aware of any relation of the term telestial to the term light. What is the relation?

It should further be understood that Adam and Eve possessed immortal celestial bodies in the Garden which was on a celestial sphere. It was with the first transgression that man fell from immortality in the presence of God to a mortal state capable only of the First Comforter on this telestial sphere. The coming of the LORD into the world and the Great Atonement are designed to redeem Adam and His posterity to the pre-fallen state: a state of immortality and eternal life on this earth in celestial paradise.

We ARE returning back to our origins.

-a-train

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Rev 21:1 And I saw a new heaven and a new earth: for the first heaven and the first earth were passed away; and there was no more sea.

Rev 21:2 And I John saw the holy city, new Jerusalem, coming down from God out of heaven, prepared as a bride adorned for her husband.

Rev 21:3 And I heard a great voice out of heaven saying, Behold, the tabernacle of God is with men, and he will dwell with them, and they shall be his people, and God himself shall be with them, and be their God.

Rev 21:4 And God shall wipe away all tears from their eyes; and there shall be no more death, neither sorrow, nor crying, neither shall there be any more pain: for the former things are passed away.

A new heaven and a new earth, the old will be no more. Just as our bodies are resurrected into incorruptibality so will earth and heaven. Just as we will be made fit for the presence of God, the earth will be made new and be fit for Father God to dwell upon.

I think that is the hope for which we are all meant to live this life.

I agree with Traveler that the truth of the resurrected Lord needs shouting to ends of the earth today. Many today do not look forward to the ressurection but rather a pale immortal soul. The ressurection is the central and driving paradigm of the Christian faith.

Jesus is risen, He is risen indeed. (I hope you don't mind me intruding but reading those verses set me to rejoicing!)

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It could have been said at any time since the fall with as much importance.

-a-train

Until Jesus came forth as a being of resurrected flesh and bones it could only be spokne of as something that would happen. While the dead blesh and bones of Jesus lay in the tomb it could not be said that he lived for he was in truth dead. But he lives now and is resurrected now - even as we speak.

The Traveler

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